Dropped kerb parking tickets around Turf Moor

[JohnC]

Not sure if this has been a topic before, but hopefully a bit of exposure might help some car drivers.
Every home game we walk into the ground via Lyndhurst Road and Admiral Street. All of the compact streets in the area are full of parked cars. Virtually every home game there are cars already parked across the dropped kerbs at one end of Admiral Street. I presume this is the same on other streets.
I understand the need for dropped kerbs, as the Highway Code says 'Facilitate safer road crossings for pedestrians, cyclists, and wheelchair users'.
After virtually every home game we retrace our steps leaving the ground and see that the illegally parked cars have a Penalty Charge Notice stuck to the windscreen.
This must be easy pickings for the Traffic Wardens. Just wait till the match starts when the streets are quiet and issue multiple notices.
This has gone on for decades!
If I've spotted a driver leaving his car after parking up, I'll mention about tickets being issued. There was one recently and the driver said he'd be ok. Sure enough, as we were leaving the ground the car had a ticket!
There are no warning signs as this is noted in the Highway Code. Who last referred to a copy of the Highway Code, certainly not me!
My reason for posting this is to try to bring it to the attention of fans visiting Turf Moor. Please avoid dropped kerbs around the ground, you will get a ticket!
How many thousands of pounds have been collected from unsuspecting Clarets over the years, I dread to think.
Rant over!
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[dougcollins]

Isn't the pavement meant to be different, don't they have that stippled pinky coloured stuff?

The example you show there doesn't even look like an official dropped kerb.

[JohnC]

I wouldn't say that this kerb is fully flush with the road but it is a bit lower than the rest of the street.

[1914tyrone]

These tickets are issued every week, I presume for parking within 10 yards of a junction.

[dougcollins]

These tickets are issued every week, I presume for parking within 10 yards of a junction.

There will be literally hundreds of cars in and around Burnley parked within 10 yards of a junction- I reckon the ticket is as the OP says, an alleged dropped kerb.

I'd like to see the official definition of a dropped kerb.

[Targetman]

These tickets are issued during EVERY home game on these streets for parking across a dropped kerb as mentioned by the original poster.

Over many years I also have mentioned to drivers who have been parking as I have been walking past, that they will receive a ticket for parking there.

Some people will then move their car but others will just ignore my advice. Sure enough as I'm walking away from the ground after the game their car has a ticket on the windscreen.

It definitely is easy money for the wardens who purposely wait until after kick off time to patrol those streets. Drivers simply don't realise that they are committing an offence.

[Quickenthetempo]

I have no sympathy with car drivers anymore. The amount of cars just parked up on pavements or abandoned anywhere they see fit is staggering.

[evensteadiereddie]

You park illegally, you should get done, it's not a difficult concept.

[taio]

Please avoid dropped kerbs, otherwise you may get a penalty notice that you fully deserve and shouldn't rant about.

[nil_desperandum]

Just to mention that one of the places that you can get a ticket - even if you have a Blue badge is dropped kerb, and correctly so as they are there to assist the disabled

[bobinho]

Pretty straightforward. Don’t park on a dropped kerb. The “is it / isn’t it” argument is pointless. Clearly the one in the picture posted is a dropped kerb. By all means argue about millimetres all you want, but it’s dropped. Don’t park there.

[dsr]

Perhaps more to the point, a bit of exposure might help wheelchair users.

[AmbleClaret]

Having spent the last 3 months with a broken leg,and using a mobility scooter and wheelchair for the first time in my life, dropped kerbs absolutely essential for these purposes. The Highway Code is something which all drivers should be familiar with so if you get ticketed, it's quite simply your own fault.

[Targetman]

Please avoid dropped kerbs, otherwise you may get a penalty notice that you fully deserve and shouldn't rant about.

No one is 'ranting' about getting a ticket on this thread though are they?

The original poster is trying to make drivers aware that they shouldn't be parking across dropped kerbs.

[ClaretTony]

A friend of mine was done for this a few years ago on Oxford Road

[Bfc]

The biggest culprit of parking over dropped kerbs is the ice cream van situated on the corner of Brunshaw Rd and Higgin St opp Park View, every match. To make sure he gets the spot a car is parked over it, then moved, for the van to take over. That dropped kerb is likely to be most needed around the ground for wheel chair users, as traffic uses that junction to access the ground parking and their safety is taken away by illegal parking.

[taio]

No one is 'ranting' about getting a ticket on this thread though are they?

The original poster is trying to make drivers aware that they shouldn't be parking across dropped kerbs.

'Rant over'

[Row x]

The biggest culprit of parking over dropped kerbs is the ice cream van situated on the corner of Brunshaw Rd and Higgin St opp Park View, every match. To make sure he gets the spot a car is parked over it, then moved, for the van to take over. That dropped kerb is likely to be most needed around the ground for wheel chair users, as traffic uses that junction to access the ground parking and their safety is taken away by illegal parking.

Does the driver stay with the vehicle, and able to move it if required, or clear off for 2hrs to watch a football match?

[beddie]

How many owners of cars or vans park them partially on the pavement, especially work men/women, lots of them everyday yet it’s an offence.

[HuncoatClaret]

I can't understand why more people don't park on Woodgrove car park at Towneley for £1.50, it's only a 5-10 minute walk to the ground.

[dushanbe]

Absolutely justified tickets these. I walk the same way back and have a little fist pump every time I see a car with a ticket.

[Bfc]

Roux, he’s selling ice creams from it. Either way he’s breaking the law. I reported it last season, but no action seems to have been taken then.

[Row x]

How many owners of cars or vans park them partially on the pavement, especially work men/women, lots of them everyday yet it’s an offence.

No it's not, unless causing an obstruction

Against the highway code, but not an offence

[ChrisG]

How many owners of cars or vans park them partially on the pavement, especially work men/women, lots of them everyday yet it’s an offence.

It's only an offence in London according to the highway code (rule 244). It does say you shouldn't park on the pavement elsewhere unless signed, however this isn't an outright ban.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway ... 238-to-252

[Row x]

Roux, he’s selling ice creams from it. Either way he’s breaking the law. I reported it last season, but no action seems to have been taken then.

What law?

[firstclaret]

I have a dropped kerb outside my property near Turf Moor & regularly have cars parked there, on non match days you are extremely unlikely to get a ticket, match days they send traffic wardens round all the drop kerbs. Seems more an unscrupulous money making scheme than them having any genuine concern for people who need to use drop kerbs.

[RMutt]

We’ve warned people about this more than once as they are parking.
I think those who think it’s justified and take pleasure in others getting tickets should have a bit more sympathy for the driver who perhaps isn’t familiar with the area and who, particularly at night matches when it’s very difficult to actually see that the kerbs are dropped makes an innocent error. The roads and pavements behind the Park View are in such a state it’s very easy to make the mistake.

[dougcollins]

We’ve warned people about this more than once as they are parking.
I think those who think it’s justified and take pleasure in others getting tickets should have a bit more sympathy for the driver who perhaps isn’t familiar with the area and who, particularly at night matches when it’s very difficult to actually see that the kerbs are dropped makes an innocent error. The roads and pavements behind the Park View are in such a state it’s very easy to make the mistake.

Absolutely. There are some kerbs around Hinton street that are collapsed and not deliberately dropped, but hardly look any different because of the poor state in general.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

They've issued pcns on match days for years
The signs for single yellow lines make it clear for Tuesdays and Saturdays..

Parking in front of a drop down kerb deserves a ticket

[Bfc]

Row x Highway Code Rule 243 states “ you must not park where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles”.

[Row x]

Row x Highway Code Rule 243 states “ you must not park where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles”.

Correct

But that's not a law or an offence...

[taio]

Correct

But that's not a law or an offence...

Think you're incorrect

[aggi]

Correct

But that's not a law or an offence...

Must indicates that there is an underlying law behind the regulation.

[Row x]

Think you're incorrect

I'm not....breaking rules in the highway code are not offences

Parking next to a dropped kerb, in certain cases will be an offence of unnecessary obstruction, which is an offence under the rta.

[claret wizard]

I can't understand why more people don't park on Woodgrove car park at Towneley for £1.50, it's only a 5-10 minute walk to the ground.

It’s £2 now, but your point is still valid. Why the council don’t open Fulledge again is a bigger question. There’s specific hard standing there that was used and charged for, for years. No idea why it was closed and not reopened??

[dushanbe]

We’ve warned people about this more than once as they are parking.
I think those who think it’s justified and take pleasure in others getting tickets should have a bit more sympathy for the driver who perhaps isn’t familiar with the area and who, particularly at night matches when it’s very difficult to actually see that the kerbs are dropped makes an innocent error. The roads and pavements behind the Park View are in such a state it’s very easy to make the mistake.

I’ve got no sympathy because people take out their brains when parking their cars these days. The streets entering Brunshaw road like Mizpah, Haven etc have clearly marked H bars over the dropped kerb and every game some Herbert will have parked over them and got a ticket.

[GetIntoEm]

Eff em, park sensibly or face the fine

[IanMcL]

I have had this ticket experience.

I was parked in one of the back roads and the pavement and gutter was full of leaves. No lines could be seen or a dropped kerb.

When I read the ticket, it was for a dropped kerb.

I scuffed all the leaves away to reveal said kerb drop!

Council not interested in my camouflage story!

[The Quattro]

I'm not....breaking rules in the highway code are not offences

Parking next to a dropped kerb, in certain cases will be an offence of unnecessary obstruction, which is an offence under the rta.

Dropped kerbs are handled by section 86 of the Traffic Management Act 2004.

Obstruction isn’t dealt with by the RTA, but regulation 103 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 (causing unnecessary obstruction) or section 137 of the Highways Act 1980 (wilful obstruction of the highway).

[martin_p]

Funnily enough I was walking to the ground from my usual parking spot in Woodgrove Road and on the streets mentioned there was a lady in a wheelchair having to manoeuvre down the middle of the road, complaining about cars parked on drop kerbs meaning she couldn’t get back on the pavement.

[Clovius Boofus]

Funnily enough I was walking to the ground from my usual parking spot in Woodgrove Road and on the streets mentioned there was a lady in a wheelchair having to manoeuvre down the middle of the road, complaining about cars parked on drop kerbs meaning she couldn’t get back on the pavement.

And all because of selfish and thoughtless people who think they can park anywhere they choose, regardless of the impact on others.

[TheFamilyCat]

I have had this ticket experience.

I was parked in one of the back roads and the pavement and gutter was full of leaves. No lines could be seen or a dropped kerb.

When I read the ticket, it was for a dropped kerb.

I scuffed all the leaves away to reveal said kerb drop!

Council not interested in my camouflage story!

Worse still, it was a female traffic warden.

[Row x]

Worse still, it was a female traffic warden.

Would it have been better if they'd been male?

[Falcon]

Last couple of matches I've attended there has been cars parked fully on the pavement on the steep part of Brunshaw Road, which is a double-yellow section. What these drivers don't realise (or don't care about) is that this still counts as parking on the double yellows. They're also blocking the pavement for wheelchair users, prams, guide dogs etc.

Unfortunately the wardens don't go that far up the hill.

[IanMcL]

Would it have been better if they'd been male?

He was just being unnecessarily insulting.

[IanMcL]

Last couple of matches I've attended there has been cars parked fully on the pavement on the steep part of Brunshaw Road, which is a double-yellow section. What these drivers don't realise (or don't care about) is that this still counts as parking on the double yellows. They're also blocking the pavement for wheelchair users, prams, guide dogs etc.

Unfortunately the wardens don't go that far up the hill.

Perhaps they will now.

[Clovius Boofus]

It always amazes me the lengths some car drivers will go to in order to avoid paying a few quid to park up. I mean, it's an absolute pittance when you consider the cost of owning and running a car.

I used to work in a town centre office, and we would regularly see people drive around for over half an hour in order to save a quid on parking up. It will have cost them more in fuel, not to mention the waste of their time and stress they no doubt put themselves through.

[Row x]

He was just being unnecessarily insulting.

Correct