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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by fidelcastro » Fri May 30, 2025 9:07 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 9:05 pm
Probably in keeping with some members of this forum they don't know they arsehole from their elbow.
:lol:

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by willsclarets » Fri May 30, 2025 9:10 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 6:19 pm
Our recruitment in terms of getting to the promised land is fine but fall short in signing players to sustain that. We don't research & recruit the right sort of people. Whoever is in charge of recruitment could do with taking a look on here because some suggestions aren't bad & are well achievable but sadly that doesn't seem to happen.
Every player that's ever been mentioned on transfer threads here, has turned up on BFCs database and been considered or dismissed on initial criteria.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri May 30, 2025 9:17 pm

willsclarets wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 9:10 pm
Every player that's ever been mentioned on transfer threads here, has turned up on BFCs database and been considered or dismissed on initial criteria.
& that's worked out well. God knows how many bad apples I can think of in recent times yes every club has them to what degree.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ksrclaret » Fri May 30, 2025 9:24 pm

Jakubclaret is genuinely hilarious. Earlier this week it was tranquilising drivers to make the roads safer and now it's Premier League recruitment taking around 30 minutes to complete.

If someone asked ChatGPT to pretend to be on Live at the Apollo, I would imagine the output would be similar.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by boatshed bill » Fri May 30, 2025 9:26 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 9:17 pm
& that's worked out well. God knows how many bad apples I can think of in recent times yes every club has them to what degree.

Well, it's kept us in the top 23 clubs in the football league pyramid for a long time.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by willsclarets » Fri May 30, 2025 9:34 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 9:17 pm
& that's worked out well. God knows how many bad apples I can think of in recent times yes every club has them to what degree.
It's evidently incredibly difficult, and more complicated than you imagine. If it wasn't, so many teams wouldn't do it so poorly even with budgets 10x as big.

Even when you "get it right", there's plenty of luck involved. There's been plenty of players anticipated to succeed in the Premier league that have flopped. And plenty of players who have arrived to a shrug, and turned out to be generational premier league players.

There's also several reasons out of a club's control, as to why a player is a no go from the start. Off my head, location, price, current squad opportunities, playing style, contractual demands, timing. There must be loads more.

It's simply not as easy as you're imagining. And I think the evidence points to the same conclusion.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Holtyclaret » Fri May 30, 2025 9:37 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 9:17 pm
& that's worked out well. God knows how many bad apples I can think of in recent times yes every club has them to what degree.
Said at a time when player togetherness and bond are at an all-time high.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Jakubs Tash » Fri May 30, 2025 9:42 pm

Here’s an actual link for anyone who might be interested…..

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ClaretFelix » Fri May 30, 2025 9:45 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 9:42 pm
Here’s an actual link for anyone who might be interested…..


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I know nothing about him apart from him being quite a good keeper a few years ago on Football Manager!

Links to 2 keepers now suggests the battle for Traffords signature is still on

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by StuWestMidsClaret » Fri May 30, 2025 10:38 pm

We could probably all live inside Jakubclaret's head comfortably...

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri May 30, 2025 10:48 pm

willsclarets wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 9:34 pm
It's evidently incredibly difficult, and more complicated than you imagine. If it wasn't, so many teams wouldn't do it so poorly even with budgets 10x as big.

Even when you "get it right", there's plenty of luck involved. There's been plenty of players anticipated to succeed in the Premier league that have flopped. And plenty of players who have arrived to a shrug, and turned out to be generational premier league players.

There's also several reasons out of a club's control, as to why a player is a no go from the start. Off my head, location, price, current squad opportunities, playing style, contractual demands, timing. There must be loads more.

It's simply not as easy as you're imagining. And I think the evidence points to the same conclusion.
It really isn't as complicated as you are making it how to be it's complicated because it's made complicated.
First of all a player needs to be identified & then it needs to be ascertained if he's willing to move & the selling club are willing to a deal if either scenario isn't positive then it doesn't happen or if there's willingness negotiations take place. Delays happen because dilly dallying take place. In essence with the correct research & due diligence you could have a transfer wrapped up in a day.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by StuWestMidsClaret » Fri May 30, 2025 11:01 pm

Wow we've got our own version of Sherlock Holmes :lol: :lol:

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Andingle » Fri May 30, 2025 11:05 pm

StuWestMidsClaret wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 11:01 pm
Wow we've got our own version of Sherlock Holmes :lol: :lol:
I'd say nearer to our version of Inspector Clouseau

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Steddyman » Fri May 30, 2025 11:06 pm

He's definitely fishing

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by StuWestMidsClaret » Fri May 30, 2025 11:09 pm

If he his then he needs to go out and get a life.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by DCWat » Fri May 30, 2025 11:10 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 10:48 pm
It really isn't as complicated as you are making it how to be it's complicated because it's made complicated.
First of all a player needs to be identified & then it needs to be ascertained if he's willing to move & the selling club are willing to a deal if either scenario isn't positive then it doesn't happen or if there's willingness negotiations take place. Delays happen because dilly dallying take place. In essence with the correct research & due diligence you could have a transfer wrapped up in a day.
You’re just a **** Devils_Advocate, **** Devils_Advocate.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ecc » Fri May 30, 2025 11:49 pm

willsclarets wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 9:34 pm
It's evidently incredibly difficult, and more complicated than you imagine. If it wasn't, so many teams wouldn't do it so poorly even with budgets 10x as big.

Even when you "get it right", there's plenty of luck involved. There's been plenty of players anticipated to succeed in the Premier league that have flopped. And plenty of players who have arrived to a shrug, and turned out to be generational premier league players.

There's also several reasons out of a club's control, as to why a player is a no go from the start. Off my head, location, price, current squad opportunities, playing style, contractual demands, timing. There must be loads more.

It's simply not as easy as you're imagining. And I think the evidence points to the same conclusion.
That's the most sense we've had on here for a while.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat May 31, 2025 12:57 am

Looks like Leeds are in for Buendia

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat May 31, 2025 1:23 am

Leeds are supposed to owe millions in transfer related debt.I am surprised that they can sign anyone.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by willsclarets » Sat May 31, 2025 4:43 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 10:48 pm
It really isn't as complicated as you are making it how to be it's complicated because it's made complicated.
First of all a player needs to be identified & then it needs to be ascertained if he's willing to move & the selling club are willing to a deal if either scenario isn't positive then it doesn't happen or if there's willingness negotiations take place. Delays happen because dilly dallying take place. In essence with the correct research & due diligence you could have a transfer wrapped up in a day.
Your response here has absolutely no relevance to the points I made in my post. So let's leave it there.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat May 31, 2025 5:20 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 1:23 am
Leeds are supposed to owe millions in transfer related debt.I am surprised that they can sign anyone.
The ownership group is worth over 5 billion, the only thing stopping them is PSR

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Cooclaret » Sat May 31, 2025 6:45 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 10:48 pm
It really isn't as complicated as you are making it how to be it's complicated because it's made complicated.
First of all a player needs to be identified & then it needs to be ascertained if he's willing to move & the selling club are willing to a deal if either scenario isn't positive then it doesn't happen or if there's willingness negotiations take place. Delays happen because dilly dallying take place. In essence with the correct research & due diligence you could have a transfer wrapped up in a day.
No.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by bumba » Sat May 31, 2025 7:23 am

Burnley, Sunderland and Wolves along with European clubs interested in Keiron Morrison from Liverpool. Northern Irish youth international forward 18 years old.

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2025/05/l ... eady-made/

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat May 31, 2025 7:35 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 1:23 am
Leeds are supposed to owe millions in transfer related debt.I am surprised that they can sign anyone.
I’m not particularly well read on Leeds financials but looking at there last summers business they had 100m net positive transfer window.

They must have a fairly decent bit of cash to throw about. Especially with there ownership.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat May 31, 2025 9:24 am

willsclarets wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 4:43 am
Your response here has absolutely no relevance to the points I made in my post. So let's leave it there.
It isn't relevant because prior to the approached target you have negated the points you have mentioned. The likes of yamal you aren't even considering you are selecting from a smaller realistic pool of players. Anyway I'll leave you to it because soon enough I'll get accused of trying to derail this thread when all I'm trying to do is counter your argument in a sensible manner. Have a good day.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by willsclarets » Sat May 31, 2025 9:47 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 9:24 am
It isn't relevant because prior to the approached target you have negated the points you have mentioned. The likes of yamal you aren't even considering you are selecting from a smaller realistic pool of players. Anyway I'll leave you to it because soon enough I'll get accused of trying to derail this thread when all I'm trying to do is counter your argument in a sensible manner. Have a good day.
The complication is nothing to do with the mechanical process of signing "a player". The whole discussion was about getting the right players in that would be a success. That's the complicated bit. You have countered absolutely nothing. But have a good day too.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat May 31, 2025 10:32 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 12:57 am
Looks like Leeds are in for Buendia
Wasn’t there a rumour that we wanted him last year ? Or am I mistaken?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sat May 31, 2025 12:02 pm

Turkish international keeper linked Cakir

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat May 31, 2025 1:38 pm

Thanks a link, not petty bickering
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnley007 » Sat May 31, 2025 1:57 pm

bumba wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 7:23 am
Burnley, Sunderland and Wolves along with European clubs interested in Keiron Morrison from Liverpool. Northern Irish youth international forward 18 years old.

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2025/05/l ... eady-made/
Could definitely be an interesting one. I like the sound of this kid.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnley007 » Sat May 31, 2025 2:08 pm

Kieran Morrison's highlights. I can't see us being able to get him, he is the star of their U18 side.

https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... 64BZs,st:0

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by fatboy47 » Sat May 31, 2025 2:16 pm

If the answer's an 18 year old kid from Liverpool's youth team, I'm wondering what the question may be.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat May 31, 2025 2:24 pm

Something like, ‘we have cat 1 status back now, let’s try and make it count’….?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by bumba » Sat May 31, 2025 2:37 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 2:16 pm
If the answer's an 18 year old kid from Liverpool's youth team, I'm wondering what the question may be.
Have you seen him play? Imagine the meltdown if we were linked with Rooney at 16.....he didn't turn out too bad did he

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnley007 » Sat May 31, 2025 2:48 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 2:16 pm
If the answer's an 18 year old kid from Liverpool's youth team, I'm wondering what the question may be.
I would imagine the word FUTURE would be involved.

Would be a major addition to our U21 side.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by dougcollins » Sat May 31, 2025 3:07 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 2:48 pm
I would imagine the word FUTURE would be involved.

Would be a major addition to our U21 side.
Yeah, but additions to the U21 side ain't what we need right now.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnley007 » Sat May 31, 2025 3:09 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 3:07 pm
Yeah, but additions to the U21 side ain't what we need right now.
We desperately need additions at all levels this summer.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by aggi » Sat May 31, 2025 3:12 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 1:23 am
Leeds are supposed to owe millions in transfer related debt.I am surprised that they can sign anyone.
49ers group, who own Leeds, recently sold about 5% of the shares in the NFL team for about $8bn. Even if you include buying Rangers there's plenty left over.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Duffer_ » Sat May 31, 2025 3:24 pm

aggi wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 3:12 pm
49ers group, who own Leeds, recently sold about 5% of the shares in the NFL team for about $8bn. Even if you include buying Rangers there's plenty left over.
I think the valuation might have been $8.5bn but they'll have only got a "measly" €0.5bn for their 6%.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Row Z » Sat May 31, 2025 3:28 pm

ClaretFelix wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 9:45 pm
I know nothing about him apart from him being quite a good keeper a few years ago on Football Manager!

Links to 2 keepers now suggests the battle for Traffords signature is still on
Or that are Hladky is not quite at the required standard as a number 2?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Holtyclaret » Sat May 31, 2025 4:22 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 2:16 pm
If the answer's an 18 year old kid from Liverpool's youth team, I'm wondering what the question may be.
Who might be worth fortunes in a few years time?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by aggi » Sat May 31, 2025 4:38 pm

Duffer_ wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 3:24 pm
I think the valuation might have been $8.5bn but they'll have only got a "measly" €0.5bn for their 6%.
That does sound a lot more realistic.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by SirBob » Sat May 31, 2025 5:05 pm

bumba wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 2:37 pm
Have you seen him play? Imagine the meltdown if we were linked with Rooney at 16.....he didn't turn out too bad did he
Not really a fair comparison :lol: Rooney was playing and scoring worldies against Arsenal when he was 16, he was regarded as a once in a generation talent when he was about 12. Every team in the world would of signed him

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by rob63 » Sun Jun 01, 2025 12:17 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 4:33 pm
just seen that he has moved into the organic fertilizer business and is doing quite well !
More or less rules him out unless we can tempt him with a lucrative offer.
He needs to view this thread then, there's loads of organic fertiliser being said on here! :D

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by bumba » Sun Jun 01, 2025 6:32 am

SirBob wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 5:05 pm
Not really a fair comparison :lol: Rooney was playing and scoring worldies against Arsenal when he was 16, he was regarded as a once in a generation talent when he was about 12. Every team in the world would of signed him
Ah yes I remember now going to games when Rooney was 12 and his name being on every fans lips.
Nobody had heard of him when he broke through.
If we signed Rooney the summer before his debut they'd have been uproar at signing a 16 year old.
Nobody has heard of Morrison but nobody had heard of Koleosho who was the same age when we signed him and he came straight in from Espanyol and started games for us without any complaints.
Your basically judging the player before you've even seen him play.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnmark » Sun Jun 01, 2025 8:00 am

Nixon has linked us with Jordan James from Rennes if Brownhill leaves.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jun 01, 2025 8:28 am

burnmark wrote:
Sun Jun 01, 2025 8:00 am
Nixon has linked us with Jordan James from Rennes if Brownhill leaves.
That’s certainly an interesting one. I could see us being interested in him

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Socrates » Sun Jun 01, 2025 8:30 am

bumba wrote:
Sun Jun 01, 2025 6:32 am
Ah yes I remember now going to games when Rooney was 12 and his name being on every fans lips.

Nobody had heard of him when he broke through.
That’s really not true.

It wasn’t quite as young as 12, but Kevin Campbell was talking about him a lot when he was 14 and saying he could already play for the first team at that age.

He was well known.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Jun 01, 2025 8:37 am

I thought perceived wisdom on here told us CJER and JB were signing new deals ?
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by wadeswondergoal » Sun Jun 01, 2025 8:43 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 01, 2025 8:37 am
I thought perceived wisdom on here told us CJER and JB were signing new deals ?
Who has said they haven’t signed deals?
You make a lot of sweeping statements on this board but then fail to back them up.

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