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Vitinho

Post by Ric_C » Thu Jun 05, 2025 11:07 pm

Looks like we are still owed money off Botafogo for him

:(

https://x.com/venecasagrande/status/193 ... GA0mw&s=19

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Re: Vitinho

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jun 05, 2025 11:13 pm

translated:
"Burnley FC, from England, sent a document to the CBF to notify (and complain) about a debt owed by SAF Botafogo in relation to the purchase of the defender Vitinho, who is already with FIFA. The English team is demanding a total of 7.5 million euros (around 48 million reais at the exchange rate of the day) from Alvinegro.

We had access to the document received by the Brazilian football entity. See below:

"We are writing on behalf of Burnley FC to inform them of a dispute with one of their clubs, SAF Botafogo.

Please find attached, for your information, a Proposal from the FIFA General Secretariat in response to Burnley FC's petition."

The CBF's response, on May 22 and signed by Director Enio Gualberto, was as follows:

"Dear sirs,

Thank you for the information provided. We confirm that Botafogo has been notified of the Proposal by the FIFA General Secretariat.

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you require further clarification."

We contacted Botafogo and, to date, have not received a response. If a response is sent, it will be posted here.

Burnley FC has been following the news about Botafogo in recent days, with player sales (Igor Jesus has already been confirmed at Nottingham Forest, and Jair and Cuiabano should follow the same path). Therefore, Burnley has once again demanded from the Rio de Janeiro team"

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Re: Vitinho

Post by Goliath » Thu Jun 05, 2025 11:15 pm

Wonder if we do much due diligence on clubs we sell to. In hindsight, it's a big fee from a Brazilian club for any player, nevermind one as average as Vitinho.

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Re: Vitinho

Post by Swizzlestick » Thu Jun 05, 2025 11:26 pm

Goliath wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 11:15 pm
Wonder if we do much due diligence on clubs we sell to. In hindsight, it's a big fee from a Brazilian club for any player, nevermind one as average as Vitinho.
They have a billionaire owner. Same guy who co-owns Palace. It’s not Big Steve down the pub.

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Re: Vitinho

Post by FeedTheArf » Thu Jun 05, 2025 11:45 pm

Ric_C wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 11:07 pm
Looks like we are still owed money off Botafogo for him

:(

https://x.com/venecasagrande/status/193 ... GA0mw&s=19
Wonder what happens in this situation? Transfer embargo? I don’t suppose there’s an instance in which Vitinho (or his registration at least) comes back to us?

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Re: Vitinho

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Jun 06, 2025 5:58 am

I'd have him back tomorrow he would be an excellent squad player.

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Re: Vitinho

Post by GetIntoEm » Fri Jun 06, 2025 7:39 am

Bring him back if they don't want to pay. Loved vitinho

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Re: Vitinho

Post by Goliath » Fri Jun 06, 2025 8:36 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 5:58 am
I'd have him back tomorrow he would be an excellent squad player.
:shock: :shock:

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Re: Vitinho

Post by Rowls » Fri Jun 06, 2025 8:37 am

Swizzlestick wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 11:26 pm
It’s not Big Steve down the pub.
Big Steve owes me a fiver. Tell him if you see him.

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Re: Vitinho

Post by dougcollins » Fri Jun 06, 2025 9:01 am

Rowls wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 8:37 am
Big Steve owes me a fiver. Tell him if you see him.
He won't be happy about that.

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Re: Vitinho

Post by JR1882 » Fri Jun 06, 2025 9:25 am

Swizzlestick wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 11:26 pm
They have a billionaire owner. Same guy who co-owns Palace. It’s not Big Steve down the pub.
And Lyon - who have massive form for this kind of thing.

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Re: Vitinho

Post by aggi » Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:09 am

Swizzlestick wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 11:26 pm
They have a billionaire owner. Same guy who co-owns Palace. It’s not Big Steve down the pub.
Also a risk that Palace won't be able to play in Europe as he's currently breaching the multi-club ownership rules.

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Re: Vitinho

Post by quoonbeatz » Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:13 am

aggi wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:09 am
Also a risk that Palace won't be able to play in Europe as he's currently breaching the multi-club ownership rules.
Absolutely brilliant if that happens.

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Re: Vitinho

Post by burnley007 » Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:21 am

quoonbeatz wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:13 am
Absolutely brilliant if that happens.
But totally unfair on the fans who are looking forward to the adventure. Imagine if we'd had it taken away from us, I would have been gutted but my son, it would have broken his heart!

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Re: Vitinho

Post by aggi » Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:22 am

burnley007 wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:21 am
But totally unfair on the fans who are looking forward to the adventure. Imagine if we'd had it taken away from us, I would have been gutted but my son, it would have broken his heart!
Even worse for the Palace fans their place would probably go to Brighton!
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Re: Vitinho

Post by Darnhill Claret » Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:37 am

As far as Vitinho goes, he's the sort of player who needs a run of games to raise his levels. Always looked better the more he played. Felt that he grew into the right wing back role better than others.
Yes, I know that would apply to lots of players, but in Vitinho's case, I felt it took him a while to get going again after time out.

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Re: Vitinho

Post by Spijed » Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:51 am

aggi wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:09 am
Also a risk that Palace won't be able to play in Europe as he's currently breaching the multi-club ownership rules.
How are they at risk whilst Forest aren't?

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Re: Vitinho

Post by Swizzlestick » Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:59 am

Spijed wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:51 am
How are they at risk whilst Forest aren't?
The Greek lad doesn't technically own Forest now i believe - think he transferred to a trust.

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Re: Vitinho

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jun 06, 2025 11:09 am

aggi wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:09 am
Also a risk that Palace won't be able to play in Europe as he's currently breaching the multi-club ownership rules.
I think they will ultimately get round it but it would be good news if they didn't. Someone has to have the balls to put a stop to this.

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Re: Vitinho

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jun 06, 2025 11:11 am

Spijed wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:51 am
How are they at risk whilst Forest aren't?
Marinakis has stood down as owner but I think they'd have been OK because Olympiacos and Forest are in two different competitions.

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Re: Vitinho

Post by aggi » Fri Jun 06, 2025 11:21 am

Spijed wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:51 am
How are they at risk whilst Forest aren't?
Ownership of Forest has been transferred to a blind trust. In theory Marinakis is still the owner of the assets but has no say on the running of the club ...

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Re: Vitinho

Post by quoonbeatz » Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:00 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:21 am
But totally unfair on the fans who are looking forward to the adventure. Imagine if we'd had it taken away from us, I would have been gutted but my son, it would have broken his heart!
Can’t say I’m arsed about them tbh. Multi-club ownership should be banned so someone finally falling foul of it is a good thing.
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Re: Vitinho

Post by Clarets4me » Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:12 pm

aggi wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 11:21 am
Ownership of Forest has been transferred to a blind trust. In theory Marinakis is still the owner of the assets but has no say on the running of the club ...
In that case, can they arrest the a***hole next time he comes on the pitch after a game, and give him a lifelong stadium ban ?

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Re: Vitinho

Post by CyrilEbokiPoh » Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:26 pm

Can we have him back? (Serious question!)
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Re: Vitinho

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:41 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:00 pm
Can’t say I’m arsed about them tbh. Multi-club ownership should be banned so someone finally falling foul of it is a good thing.
Totally agree with you

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Re: Vitinho

Post by Chester Perry » Fri Jun 06, 2025 3:47 pm

aggi wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 11:21 am
Ownership of Forest has been transferred to a blind trust. In theory Marinakis is still the owner of the assets but has no say on the running of the club ...
Palace could have done this but the closing date of eligibility for next season was March 1st 2025 - Palace have missed that deadline because back then they did not know/expect/believe they would qualify even in the FA Cup

Of course Palace have two owners involved in separate multi-club operations - they could be out of the Europa League because of Textor, but also do not qualify for the Europa Conference because of Blitzer

I suspect that the ECA will come up with a solution, simply because a number of it's most prominent members will demand it - but this was a problem that FIFA/UEFA opened the door to with their desire to see more cash coming through

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Vitinho fee unpaid

Post by Corway » Fri Jun 06, 2025 8:18 pm

Burnley are apparently demanding Botafogo pay €7.5m for the 25-year-old’s transfer.
He left last October for an undisclosed fee.

Nottingham Forest wanting to sign Igor Jesus, Jair and Cuiabano, so Burnley have again asked Botafogo about the unpaid fee, aware they will get a financial windfall.

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Re: Vitinho

Post by Bow » Fri Jun 06, 2025 8:24 pm

The multi club ownership thing is absolutely ridiculous and makes a mockery of the sport. How it ever got to be allowed is beyond me.

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Re: Vitinho

Post by ecc » Fri Jun 06, 2025 8:28 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 11:26 pm
They have a billionaire owner. Same guy who co-owns Palace. It’s not Big Steve down the pub.

LOL

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Re: Vitinho fee unpaid

Post by bobinho » Fri Jun 06, 2025 8:29 pm

Yes. It’s all in the other Vitinho thread…

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Re: Vitinho

Post by Jakubs Tash » Sat Jun 07, 2025 2:27 am

Botafogo still very much financially active in the market. It’s a bit of a **** take if they still owe us money as reports suggest….

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Re: Vitinho

Post by JR1882 » Sat Jun 07, 2025 9:38 am

aggi wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 11:21 am
Ownership of Forest has been transferred to a blind trust. In theory Marinakis is still the owner of the assets but has no say on the running of the club ...
Which is definitely the case, absolutely no say whatsoever :lol:
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