Summer transfer window

[Quicknick]

A lot of fans thought Pope was worth a lot more than £10m when we sold him to Newcastle.

How long ago was that?

[warksclaret]

I suspect Pope has an upper value of £5m right now, and realistically less . We sold him for £10m, but now 3 years older, and his recurring shoulder injury has been well documented. Also when he left us he was in or around the England squad-now he is never even being spoken about as being close to that squad. Also in todays game , in the PL, and to a growing degree in the Championship, goal keepers need to be great with their feet in retaining ground possession with their team mates, a quality Pope has never demonstrated on a regular basis

[Steddyman]

How long ago was that?

I wasn't one of those fans, I thought £10m was a good price given his age at the time. Probably worth a max of about £6m now, but his wages will be out of our range and I can't see him wanting to take the step down.

[Hedontplayforyou]

We need a keeper who can primarily keep the ball out of the net this season, we will be up against it and will face a lot of shots. Playing out from the back won’t be the priority id imagine . I’m not saying bring Pope back, but someone who can command his area like he does would be great.

[ClaretOfMancunia]

Pope is certainly used to the pressure of a relegation battle and being absolutely peppered with shots game after game.

[Steddyman]

Pope is certainly used to the pressure of a relegation battle and being absolutely peppered with shots game after game.

Werent we relegated with him in net?

[Steddyman]

Loum deal looming:

https://x.com/Erfaina1988/status/1937617939022151908

[Quicknick]

Werent we relegated with him in net?

It wasn't his fault.

[ClaretOfMancunia]

Werent we relegated with him in net?

As we were with Trafford (and Muric) in net. Point being?

[CharlieinNewMexico]

If Trafford goes we should go all out to get the lad from Stoke.

good shout

[CharlieinNewMexico]

Ramsdale seems the obvious one

apparently he's on 120k a week at Southampton.
Can see him going to Leeds who would be flush enough to pay it presumably

[Jakubclaret]

Sell trafford he's going anyway & bring sam johnson in if wolves will let him go for the season.

[Woodleyclaret]

It was widely reported last season that Leeds owed millions in unpaid transfers and this would affect their transfer ability.As this been conveniently forgotten?

[Steddyman]

It was widely reported last season that Leeds owed millions in unpaid transfers and this would affect their transfer ability.As this been conveniently forgotten?

Based on their activity already, they plan to ignore PSR and just get enough points that it doesn't matter.

[Big Vinny K]

It was widely reported last season that Leeds owed millions in unpaid transfers and this would affect their transfer ability.As this been conveniently forgotten?

Lot of things happened since those reports more than a year ago.
They sold 3 players for around £120m last summer.
They have new owners
They are still due £40m from Barca for Raphina (he was not one of the 3 sold last summer)

Been reported in last few weeks that they bid £22m for a centre back and £32m for Munoz from Fulham.

They are in a pretty perilous place PSR wise with their 2 last reported losses but doesn’t sound like it’s bothering them much !

[NewClaret]

Lot of things happened since those reports more than a year ago.
They sold 3 players for around £120m last summer.
They have new owners
They are still due £40m from Barca for Raphina (he was not one of the 3 sold last summer)

Been reported in last few weeks that they bid £22m for a centre back and £32m for Munoz from Fulham.

They are in a pretty perilous place PSR wise with their 2 last reported losses but doesn’t sound like it’s bothering them much !

Who are the three here? Rutter (£40m), Gray (£30m) and?

£94m combined losses over the last 2 years but probably a big profit this year from player sales as you say to offset that. With the same (reduced) PSR allocation as us though, you’d expect some limits on their spending, unless they just decide to go all Forest and take the points deductions in future years.

I can’t say I blame them, really. The rules are ridiculous for promoted clubs.

[Big Vinny K]

Who are the three here? Rutter (£40m), Gray (£30m) and?

£94m combined losses over the last 2 years but probably a big profit this year from player sales as you say to offset that. With the same (reduced) PSR allocation as us though, you’d expect some limits on their spending, unless they just decide to go all Forest and take the points deductions in future years.

I can’t say I blame them, really. The rules are ridiculous for promoted clubs.

Winger they sold to West Ham for £30m.
Thought Archie Gray went for more actually but £100m for 3 players last summer pretty significant and don’t think they spent that much on new players.
They got the Welsh centre back from Spurs on a perm and I thought he was their best player last season - didn’t put a foot wrong on the turf in the goalless draw

[Big Vinny K]

Who are the three here? Rutter (£40m), Gray (£30m) and?

£94m combined losses over the last 2 years but probably a big profit this year from player sales as you say to offset that. With the same (reduced) PSR allocation as us though, you’d expect some limits on their spending, unless they just decide to go all Forest and take the points deductions in future years.

I can’t say I blame them, really. The rules are ridiculous for promoted clubs.

Winger they sold to West Ham for £30m.
Thought Archie Gray went for more actually but £100m for 3 players last summer pretty significant and don’t think they spent that much on new players.
They got the Welsh centre back from Spurs on a perm and I thought he was their best player last season - didn’t put a foot wrong on the turf in the goalless draw

[NewClaret]

Winger they sold to West Ham for £30m.
Thought Archie Gray went for more actually but £100m for 3 players last summer pretty significant and don’t think they spent that much on new players.
They got the Welsh centre back from Spurs on a perm and I thought he was their best player last season - didn’t put a foot wrong on the turf in the goalless draw

Ah yes, Summerville. Had completely forgotten about him.

Think reported Gray fees differ wildly, I went with the lower end but could be more. Think Leeds did very well over several seasons in terms of selling prices.

Agree re: Rodon. Will be interesting to see how he gets on in the Premier League.

[NewClaret]

If Trafford goes (and it’s looking likely) I would go for Muric. We’re going down anyway so we may as well have a laugh.

Didn’t dare say it, but so would I. On the condition that he’d stay if we went down, or at least, wouldn’t force a move. I’m not sure under what conditions he left though, so maybe that bridge has burnt down!

Despite his two clangers that cost us big points, I think it’s overlooked/forgotten that he actually did much better for the last ten games. He’s big and commands the box well.

I thought we sold him cheaply given his ability with his feet. Who knows what Ipswich will do and if they plan to use him this year (I think they will but they have a lot of keepers), but if his fall from grace there meant we could pick him up cheaply, I think we could do a lot worse. If we could get him taking less risks and improve his all round game I think we could take a big profit again.

Would certainly take Muric all day and night over Cooper and Johansson.

[Row x]

Didn’t dare say it, but so would I. On the condition that he’d stay if we went down, or at least, wouldn’t force a move. I’m not sure under what conditions he left though, so maybe that bridge has burnt down!

Despite his two clangers that cost us big points, I think it’s overlooked/forgotten that he actually did much better for the last ten games. He’s big and commands the box well.

What about the big mistakes he made for Ipswich, in the premier league?

[Big Vinny K]

Didn’t dare say it, but so would I. On the condition that he’d stay if we went down, or at least, wouldn’t force a move. I’m not sure under what conditions he left though, so maybe that bridge has burnt down!

Despite his two clangers that cost us big points, I think it’s overlooked/forgotten that he actually did much better for the last ten games. He’s big and commands the box well.

I thought we sold him cheaply given his ability with his feet. Who knows what Ipswich will do and if they plan to use him this year (I think they will but they have a lot of keepers), but if his fall from grace there meant we could pick him up cheaply, I think we could do a lot worse. If we could get him taking less risks and improve his all round game I think we could take a big profit again.

Would certainly take Muric all day and night over Cooper and Johansson.

All about opinions I know but Muric was awful for Ipswich. When Ipswich were playing ok and Delap in particular was a real threat they were competing in a lot of games in the first few months of the season and Muric’s mistakes cost them a number of points.

When he came back into the team for Burnley instead of Trafford he cost us more points than Trafford had done all season with his mistakes against Brighton and Everton (?)

Muric may be ok in the Championship but his record in the premier league for us and Ipswich shows that you will be punished if you play football like Muric does.

[boyyanno]

Didn’t dare say it, but so would I. On the condition that he’d stay if we went down, or at least, wouldn’t force a move. I’m not sure under what conditions he left though, so maybe that bridge has burnt down!

Despite his two clangers that cost us big points, I think it’s overlooked/forgotten that he actually did much better for the last ten games. He’s big and commands the box well.

I thought we sold him cheaply given his ability with his feet. Who knows what Ipswich will do and if they plan to use him this year (I think they will but they have a lot of keepers), but if his fall from grace there meant we could pick him up cheaply, I think we could do a lot worse. If we could get him taking less risks and improve his all round game I think we could take a big profit again.

Would certainly take Muric all day and night over Cooper and Johansson.

I thought Muric was excellent in the last 10 or so games in the PL, he did cost us with a few errors but he also improved us when he came back in.

The big problem is whilst I can overlook a couple of errors in isolation I think that across most of his career he's shown he's an error prone keeper, his time it Ipswich has cemented that for me. Its just not a trait you want in a keeper.

Special mention for his ball playing ability though, he actually got me out of my seat on a few occasions under Kompany. I just think in the PL (and especially for a team that's going to be under the cosh a lot) errors will never be far away.

[boatshed bill]

All about opinions I know but Muric was awful for Ipswich. When Ipswich were playing ok and Delap in particular was a real threat they were competing in a lot of games in the first few months of the season and Muric’s mistakes cost them a number of points.

When he came back into the team for Burnley instead of Trafford he cost us more points than Trafford had done all season with his mistakes against Brighton and Everton (?)

Muric may be ok in the Championship but his record in the premier league for us and Ipswich shows that you will be punished if you play football like Muric does.

I totally agree with you, just not up to PL standard. He was brilliant when we were dominating teams in the Championship, that's about his level.

[Quickenthetempo]

I totally agree with you, just not up to PL standard. He was brilliant when we were dominating teams in the Championship, that's about his level.

I mean, it's highly likely we haven't got a single player or manager that's Premier league standard. So it's not much of a put down.
But I wouldn't bring him back.

[Quicknick]

All about opinions I know but Muric was awful for Ipswich. When Ipswich were playing ok and Delap in particular was a real threat they were competing in a lot of games in the first few months of the season and Muric’s mistakes cost them a number of points.

When he came back into the team for Burnley instead of Trafford he cost us more points than Trafford had done all season with his mistakes against Brighton and Everton (?)

Muric may be ok in the Championship but his record in the premier league for us and Ipswich shows that you will be punished if you play football like Muric does.

Muric is a clown.

[NewClaret]

What about the big mistakes he made for Ipswich, in the premier league?

Fair point.

I can’t say I watched a lot of Ipswich last season, but the mistakes I saw felt more about their collective awful defending than things that could be pinned directly on a keeper error as such. Like his errors vs Brighton and Everton for us, anyway.

I got the feeling in the end that, maybe a bit like Trafford for us, Muric became a scapegoat for the team leaking goals. The spotlight shone on him and every goal conceded was analysed. Then his confidence was probably knocked. Inbetween it I saw fans saying he’d made a lot of good saves too.

I suppose my point was that a more solid defensive set up, with a more risk averse coaching/instructions, could we get the best out of him? There’s a talent there for sure.

[NewClaret]

All about opinions I know but Muric was awful for Ipswich. When Ipswich were playing ok and Delap in particular was a real threat they were competing in a lot of games in the first few months of the season and Muric’s mistakes cost them a number of points.

When he came back into the team for Burnley instead of Trafford he cost us more points than Trafford had done all season with his mistakes against Brighton and Everton (?)

Muric may be ok in the Championship but his record in the premier league for us and Ipswich shows that you will be punished if you play football like Muric does.

Per above, I didn’t really watch a lot of him for Ipswich, but what I did see, I felt was part McKenna’s similar approach to defending as Kompany.

I agree he cost us more points than Trafford. I thought he was unfortunate to be dropped at the time he was, really.

This conversation is making me realise that we really should try and hold on to Trafford.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Fair point.

I can’t say I watched a lot of Ipswich last season, but the mistakes I saw felt more about their collective awful defending than things that could be pinned directly on a keeper error as such. Like his errors vs Brighton and Everton for us, anyway.

I got the feeling in the end that, maybe a bit like Trafford for us, Muric became a scapegoat for the team leaking goals. The spotlight shone on him and every goal conceded was analysed. Then his confidence was probably knocked. Inbetween it I saw fans saying he’d made a lot of good saves too.

I suppose my point was that a more solid defensive set up, with a more risk averse coaching/instructions, could we get the best out of him? There’s a talent there for sure.

Some of the clangers he had this season for Ipswich were truly laughable.

He’s an appalling keeper and never should have been anywhere near our club IMO

[NewClaret]

I thought Muric was excellent in the last 10 or so games in the PL, he did cost us with a few errors but he also improved us when he came back in.

The big problem is whilst I can overlook a couple of errors in isolation I think that across most of his career he's shown he's an error prone keeper, his time it Ipswich has cemented that for me. Its just not a trait you want in a keeper.

Special mention for his ball playing ability though, he actually got me out of my seat on a few occasions under Kompany. I just think in the PL (and especially for a team that's going to be under the cosh a lot) errors will never be far away.

Fair points. I think, or I’d hope, that we could cut out the mistakes. Although I’ve just checked and he’s 27 this year, which is older than I thought, so maybe not!

I thought our GK coach or Parker/Jackson (heard he was he was in charge of the defence), improved Trafford last year. There were games, or parts in games, where he went long every single time with his kicking, his game management was superb, etc.

I think if we could played more defensively with a low block and got Aro taking less risks, it’d lead to less mistakes. I’d back our team and new coach to improve him, anyway. We know he has the ball playing in his locker.

You might be right though and he’ll never kick on. I suppose it comes down to, if we sell Traff, what will it cost to find someone better than Muric? Quite a bit, I’d guess.

P.S. I’d love to know how our GK is getting on if anyone knows. Did a good job last season, I thought.

[NewClaret]

Some of the clangers he had this season for Ipswich were truly laughable.

He’s an appalling keeper and never should have been anywhere near our club IMO

Which ones, can you remember? I’ll look them up.

[NL Claret]

Utc posters quick to jump on a rumour about certain players forcing a move and they wouldn't want them back near the club.

Some have different rules when it comes to Muric, wasn't he one of the players who couldn't even be bothered returning to training?

Even if that wasn't the case, I wouldn't have back just based on ability and how prone he is to costly errors.

[Socrates]

Some of the clangers he had this season for Ipswich were truly laughable.

He’s an appalling keeper and never should have been anywhere near our club IMO

Even when he was a huge part of one of the most successful Championship teams of all time and the best defence in the Championship in 22/23?

Nowhere near the club seems ….. a stretch?

[CyrilEbokiPoh]

Muric was excellent for us in the main. Just the errors are always high profile / stand out.

But he was a huge part of our promotion team. And in spite of his two errors (Everton and Brighton). Our performances improved as did our points per game ratio with Muric in goal. He also had some excellent games / made some excellent saves. Brentford, Wolves among others.

[NewClaret]

Even when he was a huge part of one of the most successful Championship teams of all time and the best defence in the Championship in 22/23?

Nowhere near the club seems ….. a stretch?

For this reason I think Ipswich might keep and reinstate him, so it’s possibly a pointless conversation.

But a condition for me would be that he’d stay with us if we went down because he was outstanding at that level.

[DingleDangle]

Frazer Forster
Fabianski
Dubravka
Stefan Ortega
Robin Olsen

Only ones I can think of that match that criteria and affordable

I'll throw in Matt Turner. Very lazy supporters linking us to Nick Pope, just because he played for us previously. And then on top of that, to suggest they'd be happy to sell Trafford for £30 mill + Pope in exchange, makes me very glad they're not negotiating on behalf of the club. Clueless springs to mind.

[PremierLeagueClass]

Can someone provide a current state of play please. Concrete links. Hard to find them in this thread at times.

[Boss Hogg]

There is a links only thread. Not difficult to find.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Incoming -

Weiss - German keeper almost done and dusted
Tchaouna - Winger from Lazio almost done.
Hartman - left back from Feyenoord almost done .

Outgoing - Newcastle in talks over Trafford.

[Swizzlestick]

Even when he was a huge part of one of the most successful Championship teams of all time and the best defence in the Championship in 22/23?

Nowhere near the club seems ….. a stretch?

He was also in the PFA team of the year but sensationalism is the order of the day for some.

[Quickenthetempo]

I'll throw in Matt Turner. Very lazy supporters linking us to Nick Pope, just because he played for us previously. And then on top of that, to suggest they'd be happy to sell Trafford for £30 mill + Pope in exchange, makes me very glad they're not negotiating on behalf of the club. Clueless springs to mind.

What do you think Trafford is worth?

[CoolClaret]

Matt Turner is a fantastic shout after just signing for Lyon, who are in a right mess.

[RVclaret]

Matt Turner is not very good. Forest fans I saw were delighted to get a fee for him and get shut.

Better options out there include Senegal international keeper Yevenn Diouf, relegated with Troyes to Ligue 2, but statistically the best shot stopping keeper in Europe last season.

As well, already linked with us a few weeks ago, Turkey’s number 1 Uğurcan Çakır from Trabszonspor. Both would probably be cheaper than Cooper, who would be a decent choice too.

[DingleDangle]

What do you think Trafford is worth?

That's not the point I'm making and you know it. I'll trust Pace, Turner and Parker to get the right price for Trafford, if and when we do eventually sell him.

[burnley007]

Matt Turner is not very good. Forest fans I saw were delighted to get a fee for him and get shut.

Better options out there include Senegal international keeper Yevenn Diouf, relegated with Troyes to Ligue 2, but statistically the best shot stopping keeper in Europe last season.

As well, already linked with us a few weeks ago, Turkey’s number 1 Uğurcan Çakır from Trabszonspor. Both would probably be cheaper than Cooper, who would be a decent choice too.

Yehvenn Diouf looks a real shout. Not too expensive either.

Played at all levels for France up to U21s before switching to Senegal.

[DingleDangle]

Matt Turner is a fantastic shout after just signing for Lyon, who are in a right mess.

I'm not sure that Matt Turner has signed for Lyon. Last I read was that it was looking likely, but Lyon's recent troubles and demotion to Ligue 2, means it may not be looking likely now.

[burnley007]

I'm not sure that Matt Turner has signed for Lyon. Last I read was that it was looking likely, but Lyon's recent troubles and demotion to Ligue 2, means it may not be looking likely now.

https://www.nottinghamforest.news/2025/ ... to-happen/

[burnley007]

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[Down_Rover]

If Trafford goes (and it’s looking likely) I would go for Muric. We’re going down anyway so we may as well have a laugh.

I would be delighted to get as many 0-0 draws as we did last season. Could be the bedrock of staying up

[Quickenthetempo]

That's not the point I'm making and you know it. I'll trust Pace, Turner and Parker to get the right price for Trafford, if and when we do eventually sell him.

I thought you were saying 30m and we get Pope under valued him?