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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Chester Perry » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:09 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:57 pm
This news also in The New York Times
Ornstein writes for The Athletic which is owned by the New York Times they share a lot of stories
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by BigGaz » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:11 pm

With the news about Tuanzebe set to join I was just about to log in and give praise to Pace and Co for getting on with business early but see Newcy has beat me to it.

Hartmann, Tuanzebe and Weiss along with Tchaouna are 4 players that are going to be fighting for starting spots. These aren't squad fillers. It's good to see.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by BigGaz » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:14 pm

Targetman wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:21 pm
Surely Newcastle and Burnley need to agree on the fee before Newcastle are allowed to discuss personal terms with Trafford, not the other way round?
That still happens, but often nowadays If both clubs are in agreement that they're not too far apart in negotiations or everyone is keen to a deal they'll give permission to a player/agents to negotiate with the club at the same time.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ArmchairDetective » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:16 pm

Seems we're getting a lot done, and before July too. Just what we like to see. Positive signs.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by aggi » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:22 pm

Tuanzebe doesn't seem to have played many first team games for a 27 year old (about 100). Doesn't seem to have ever managed to play more than half a season and often considerably less.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Darnhill Claret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:22 pm

Any more on Bournemouth being interested in Tchaouna?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnmark » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:23 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:40 pm
Ornstein is about as reliable as it gets
He certainly is.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnley007 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:27 pm

aggi wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:22 pm
Tuanzebe doesn't seem to have played many first team games for a 27 year old (about 100). Doesn't seem to have ever managed to play more than half a season and often considerably less.
Played 22 games last season, so not too bad. Prem experience. But has been held back by injuries over the years, otherwise he'd be NOWHERE near to Burnley!

I don't mind this policy at all. He is at a good age and can still be a very good player. (Could also go a bit Shelvey!)

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Quicknick » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:28 pm

I like these early signings. Late in the window is a worry.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnley007 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:29 pm

Turkish reports yesterday claimed Trabzonspor had pulled out of a move for Tuanzebe due to concerns regarding his fitness giving fans hope that the former Manchester United man might stay at Portman Road. However, those hopes have now been dashed

slightly worrying, but let's see how it goes...

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by RVclaret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:30 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:27 pm
Played 22 games last season, so not too bad. Prem experience. But has been held back by injuries over the years, otherwise he'd be NOWHERE near to Burnley!

I don't mind this policy at all. He is at a good age and can still be a very good player. (Could also go a bit Shelvey!)
Weirdly last season his main injury was nearly cutting off a finger / thumb in a freak accident at home!

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ollieclarets8 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:34 pm

A lot of worrying again I see.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by brexit » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:39 pm

Got the funny feeling Josh Cullen has had a word with Evan Ferguson will be having a medical with us early next week.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:41 pm

Tuanzebe is fine on a free.

Taller and quicker than Roberts but he isn’t a Hartmann who I view as an elite signing. It would be a shame not to get an equivalent on the other side.

Decent Champions League and Europa League experience though, plenty of top flight appearances. I can see why we are snapping him up on a free.

The number of quick 6 footers we are signing is increasing.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by mkmel » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:44 pm

brexit wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:39 pm
Got the funny feeling Josh Cullen has had a word with Evan Ferguson will be having a medical with us early next week.
You know this for a fact?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:02 pm

Most impressive is that we seem to be getting our incoming business done early.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Longsider » Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:10 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:29 pm
Turkish reports yesterday claimed Trabzonspor had pulled out of a move for Tuanzebe due to concerns regarding his fitness giving fans hope that the former Manchester United man might stay at Portman Road. However, those hopes have now been dashed

slightly worrying, but let's see how it goes...
I'm with you on this. Injury risk. See how the medical goes.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:16 pm

If Tuanzebe stays fit, it's an exceptional signing.

He was performing incredibly well for Ipswich until he sliced his thumb off.

Pocketed Mbappe when playing for United, away @ PSG in the Champions League.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by claretburns » Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:27 pm

Targetman wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:29 pm
So clubs are now allowed to approach players from other clubs despite them being under contract?
The selling club still need to give permission but we see it a lot with players that when the two clubs negotiating a fee are not far apart the player/agent can begin discussing terms as well.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ksrclaret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:29 pm

I’m liking the tendency to go for the taller and more athletic players. It’s exactly what you need these days and what we didn’t do last time.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Goalposts » Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:30 pm

The new video for Max is up their with the best yet from our marketing dept.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by warksclaret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:09 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:16 pm
If Tuanzebe stays fit, it's an exceptional signing.

He was performing incredibly well for Ipswich until he sliced his thumb off.

Pocketed Mbappe when playing for United, away @ PSG in the Champions League.
Very good competition for RB, with added flexility of playing as a CH. Suspect we will need to move on Delcroix, maybe even Ekdal both soon, and I suspect Beyer is many months away and even then a big question mark re his future

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by NewClaret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:09 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:16 pm
Seems we're getting a lot done, and before July too. Just what we like to see. Positive signs.
Must have some PSR headroom that we want to use before July 1st. Good to have these guys in for start of pre-season though.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by NewClaret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:12 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:16 pm
If Tuanzebe stays fit, it's an exceptional signing.

He was performing incredibly well for Ipswich until he sliced his thumb off.

Pocketed Mbappe when playing for United, away @ PSG in the Champions League.
Exceptional signing. Remember that game.

I can barely believe we might get his best years (if we keep him fit, as you say).

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:26 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:16 pm
If Tuanzebe stays fit, it's an exceptional signing.

He was performing incredibly well for Ipswich until he sliced his thumb off.

Pocketed Mbappe when playing for United, away @ PSG in the Champions League.
I once saw Chris Brass have Liverpools superstar winger in his back pocket for a game at Anfield.
After big hopes he went on to score the best own goal you will ever see.

I never judge on just one game anymore.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnley007 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:39 pm

brexit wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:39 pm
Got the funny feeling Josh Cullen has had a word with Evan Ferguson will be having a medical with us early next week.
https://www.si.com/onsi/soccer/celtic/n ... guson-deal

Would be an interesting one, but I can't see it.

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Re: Loum Tchaouna

Post by CyrilEbokiPoh » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:51 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:16 pm
there was an article in the Athletic yesterday where it was said a £20m signing could only be expected to start in a Premier League teams 18th (or below) in the table i posted it in the MMT
The good news is. We have regularly over performed teams with much bigger budgets than us. At all levels.

Granted in recent years our championship sides have been worth a few quid. But look at 2008/09, 2013/14 and most seasons at this level.

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Re: Loum Tchaouna

Post by CyrilEbokiPoh » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:54 pm

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:44 pm
Well clearly not, but stats are stats, their there for everyone to see, you can have a look if you want, it will tell you that recently he's nothing to shout about, however I have also said that he looks very good on the video, and looks like he's got bags of potential, so a gamble imo, and is a lot to be shelling out right now for a club like us. We should really be looking at more proven commodities, just my opinion.
Examples of more proven are Townsend and Redmond (who I think were sensible targets). But even they guarantee nothing ultimately.

We need to ensure the total is more than the sum of its parts

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:08 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:26 pm
I once saw Chris Brass have Liverpools superstar winger in his back pocket for a game at Anfield.
After big hopes he went on to score the best own goal you will ever see.

I never judge on just one game anymore.
Good point and neither do I really - that's just a game (evidenced by NewClaret as well), that sticks to mind.

I was impressed with him when I watched a few Ipswich games at the start of last season as well - looked to be one of their best players.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:15 pm

Injuries have been the story of his career thus far, it’s a big IF but, IF he can stay fit he will be a very good signing . Surely he has to find a purple patch of fitness at some point in his career, hopefully this is it.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:15 pm

We won't be anywhere near as open as the likes of Ipswich - as others have said, if he stays fit it could be another top signing. We seem to have learned the lessons from last time, big and quick lads coming in.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by It Is What It Is » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:46 pm

Josh Brownhill has 3 days left of his contract. Surely, surely, someone must know if he is going or staying I've heard £15 million signing on fee from West Ham...he's worth sticking £15 m in his bank account that to us and to up his wages.
We would not be in the Premier League without him.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by CyrilEbokiPoh » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:50 pm

It Is What It Is wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:46 pm
Josh Brownhill has 3 days left of his contract. Surely, surely, someone must know if he is going or staying I've heard £15 million signing on fee from West Ham...he's worth sticking £15 m in his bank account that to us and to up his wages.
We would not be in the Premier League without him.
No way on gods green earth we would or should give brownhill a £15m signing on fee. And he’s been a great player for us.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:51 pm

It Is What It Is wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:46 pm
Josh Brownhill has 3 days left of his contract. Surely, surely, someone must know if he is going or staying I've heard £15 million signing on fee from West Ham...he's worth sticking £15 m in his bank account that to us and to up his wages.
We would not be in the Premier League without him.
£15m signing on fee ??...Plus wages ?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by taio » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:54 pm

It Is What It Is wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:46 pm
Josh Brownhill has 3 days left of his contract. Surely, surely, someone must know if he is going or staying I've heard £15 million signing on fee from West Ham...he's worth sticking £15 m in his bank account that to us and to up his wages.
We would not be in the Premier League without him.
No chance

Where have you got this from?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by dcunningham27 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:58 pm

Something incoming on Twitter club just posted

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by CatonClaret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:58 pm

As I looked at the message board the club Twitter page has tweeted “Oh, just one more thing…”. Please be Brownhill extension!

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnmark » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:58 pm

Tweet incoming……….

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by boyyanno » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:58 pm

It Is What It Is wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:46 pm
Josh Brownhill has 3 days left of his contract. Surely, surely, someone must know if he is going or staying I've heard £15 million signing on fee from West Ham...he's worth sticking £15 m in his bank account that to us and to up his wages.
We would not be in the Premier League without him.
If anyone is willing to give him a 15m pound signing on fee then he should take it with both hands.

I personally dont think you get to 2 or 3 days before your contract expires without renewing if you're staying but time will tell.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by warksclaret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:01 pm

It Is What It Is wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:46 pm
Josh Brownhill has 3 days left of his contract. Surely, surely, someone must know if he is going or staying I've heard £15 million signing on fee from West Ham...he's worth sticking £15 m in his bank account that to us and to up his wages.
We would not be in the Premier League without him.
Appreciate what he achieved-well above expectation. But have we not been paying him, in order to reward him for what you are putting forwards ??

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by CatonClaret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:02 pm

Tuanzebe confirmed. Good signing and worth a risk with his injury record for me

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Re: Summer transfer window

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:15 pm

It Is What It Is wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:46 pm
Josh Brownhill has 3 days left of his contract. Surely, surely, someone must know if he is going or staying I've heard £15 million signing on fee from West Ham...he's worth sticking £15 m in his bank account that to us and to up his wages.
We would not be in the Premier League without him.
He becomes a different player in the Premier League though. Becomes more of a scrapper and ratter.
Apparently it was on here that he wants 80k a week, so i'm sure we could find someone to do that job for much less.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by jedi_master » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:15 pm

Really happy with the business so far. On the face of it, very good additions at what seem to be reasonable prices.

Just hope Brownhill stays, surely we find out soon?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by aggi » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:39 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:27 pm
Played 22 games last season, so not too bad. Prem experience. But has been held back by injuries over the years, otherwise he'd be NOWHERE near to Burnley!

I don't mind this policy at all. He is at a good age and can still be a very good player. (Could also go a bit Shelvey!)
Yes, seems his main injury last season was out for six weeks after injuring himself doing the washing up!

I was mainly surprised firstly that he was 27 and then that he'd only played 100 games but I can't say I know a great deal of detail about his career.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Longsider » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:42 pm

aggi wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:39 pm
Yes, seems his main injury last season was out for six weeks after injuring himself doing the washing up!

I was mainly surprised firstly that he was 27 and then that he'd only played 100 games but I can't say I know a great deal of detail about his career.
I was more surprised he doesn't have a dishwasher.
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Re: Loum Tchaouna

Post by aggi » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:44 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:29 pm
It is not a USP if everyone is doing it and even Matt Williams has publicly acknowledged that there is nothing new/unique in what ALK/Velocity are doing it - however well or otherwise they may do it
On a related note I came across this FT article with the ex-Liverpool guy Ian Graham https://on.ft.com/3T8yqSn (should be free to read) suggesting that not everyone is taking data analysis seriously.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by NL Claret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:50 pm

Longsider wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:42 pm
I was more surprised he doesn't have a dishwasher.
Was going to post on the transfer article thread that I hope he has got a dishwasher now.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Tribesmen » Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:01 pm

Who was it dropped a bottle of aftershave on his foot and was out for a time ?
Not a Burnley player

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Re: Loum Tchaouna

Post by RVclaret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:01 pm

aggi wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:44 pm
On a related note I came across this FT article with the ex-Liverpool guy Ian Graham https://on.ft.com/3T8yqSn (should be free to read) suggesting that not everyone is taking data analysis seriously.
This interview on Training Ground Guru is interesting too.

To the point, a particular comment is “I think every club that uses data uses it differently.”

https://trainingground.guru/podcast/luk ... with-data/

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