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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by agreenwood » Sun Jul 20, 2025 6:10 pm

David Eyres and his crew working overtime this past 12 months trying to move Trafford. Romano having to lap it up as part of the grace and favour world he operates in. Similar to his regular updates re Gjokores. It’s proper grim.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jul 20, 2025 6:12 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:49 pm
That would be some pretty immense business! Hopefully things start to pick up this week on the transfer front.
The City thing would make a bit of sense on why things have gone quiet - presumably their players are on an extended period of leave given the club WC.

But fingers crossed, one way or the other.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Row x » Sun Jul 20, 2025 6:22 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 6:10 pm
David Eyres and his crew working overtime this past 12 months trying to move Trafford. Romano having to lap it up as part of the grace and favour world he operates in. Similar to his regular updates re Gjokores. It’s proper grim.
So is it not true?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by agreenwood » Sun Jul 20, 2025 6:30 pm

Row x wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 6:22 pm
So is it not true?
I’d guess it’s largely based around what Trafford’s team would like to happen, given how many journalists have had him being “close” to a move for over year now.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by taio » Sun Jul 20, 2025 6:33 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 6:30 pm
I’d guess it’s largely based around what Trafford’s team would like to happen, given how many journalists have had him being “close” to a move for over year now.
His departure feels nailed on

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by agreenwood » Sun Jul 20, 2025 6:41 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 6:33 pm
His departure feels nailed on
Oh, agreed and I’m sure it finally will happen.

I’m just saying that what you’re getting from Romano et al is only one side of the story. Confidence that a deal is close has proven to be wishful thinking for Trafford’s team this last year.

The same is happening with Gjokeres. Agreement of a fee with Arsenal seemed a formality a week ago, but perhaps Sporting have other ideas.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by FeedTheArf » Sun Jul 20, 2025 6:41 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 6:10 pm
David Eyres and his crew working overtime this past 12 months trying to move Trafford. Romano having to lap it up as part of the grace and favour world he operates in. Similar to his regular updates re Gjokores. It’s proper grim.
I do admire his ability to get a tweet out of anything.

Of course Trafford would be able to agree personal terms with City.

“Hi James, fancy returning to your old club on triple your salary? That’s before we mention Champions League football, a practical shoe in for the World Cup squad and playing in front of a far superior defence where you’ll have a couple of saves a game to make.”

“Go on then!

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Jul 20, 2025 6:52 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 6:10 pm
David Eyres and his crew working overtime this past 12 months trying to move Trafford. Romano having to lap it up as part of the grace and favour world he operates in. Similar to his regular updates re Gjokores. It’s proper grim.
Romano and these type of 'journos' are sc*m. I have no doubts that they get bankrolled to tweet this sort of stuff.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Cooclaret » Sun Jul 20, 2025 7:10 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 3:57 pm
I don’t know if he’ll leave or where he’ll go but I can assure you it’s not fabricated.
That’s almost you giving me credit Tony.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Cooclaret » Sun Jul 20, 2025 7:12 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 6:30 pm
I’d guess it’s largely based around what Trafford’s team would like to happen, given how many journalists have had him being “close” to a move for over year now.
Trafford has always known he’s going back to city. Yes Newcastle added some complexity to that, but not much.

Chelsea enquired. JT himself turned that down.

He’s had his future mapped out domestically and internationally since he was seventeen.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by mdd2 » Sun Jul 20, 2025 7:44 pm

Good deal potentially for us
Two years for free and we then end up with some cash in the bank

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by GrahamBranchsPerm » Sun Jul 20, 2025 7:57 pm

Any chance City say to Trafford.

'Just stay at Burnley, play 38 games, and we take you at the end of the season. Be patient, that's the plan.'

Purely speculating, but that is what would be best for him ad their PSR.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jul 20, 2025 7:58 pm

GrahamBranchsPerm wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 7:57 pm
Any chance City say to Trafford.

'Just stay at Burnley, play 38 games, and we take you at the end of the season. Be patient, that's the plan.'

Purely speculating, but that is what would be best for him ad their PSR.

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It would be better for us. I fail to see how it would be better for Trafford.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Alan Young » Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:02 pm

Think for all parties it might be best for Trafford to find the new home he clearly wants this season but the club should be applauded for holding out for the right fee. Good chance he ends up England No.1 for the World Cup next season at which point his value surely goes up?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by taio » Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:02 pm

GrahamBranchsPerm wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 7:57 pm
Any chance City say to Trafford.

'Just stay at Burnley, play 38 games, and we take you at the end of the season. Be patient, that's the plan.'

Purely speculating, but that is what would be best for him ad their PSR.

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Surely City wouldn't do that and if they did their fee would be far less given Trafford would only have 12 months remaining on his contract. That would be better for their PSR. If City are looking to buy him, they will want him now.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by beddie » Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:07 pm

I hope Mr Pace is firm with City and tells them get the deal done it’s £40m.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by GrahamBranchsPerm » Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:13 pm

Fair challenge.

Main reason is (a)

(a) Gets 38 games as a big fish in a setting / system he knows and is comfortable in, beds into the Prem after last time's mixed bag. This compared to battling it out with Nick Pope or whoever, where a few cock up in front of baying Geordies means benched in a World Cup year.
(b) No messing about with location (appreciate he is from Cumbria originally), but any house move is disruptive.
(c) Depends what contract would be on the table from City but across 5 years, better to have a 'City' contract. Fatter than what Newcastle can ever offer, despite the 1 season shortfall he would have by staying.

Downside

(a) has a **** season with Burnley and misses out on the move.
(b) short term cash deficit.

It's the same reason Esteve will hopefully stay - full season in Prem, at a place you know, as a big fish, then pick your move. And similar to any career ladder - some times it's about learning, not just the immediate cashish, to bag the long term bucks.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by warksclaret » Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:15 pm

beddie wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:07 pm
I hope Mr Pace is firm with City and tells them get the deal done it’s £40m.
Easy to say. Its like people criticising the people who have had to negotiate import tariffs with Trump and criticising them for being a soft touch following a fairly good outcome

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:26 pm

£35m and an add on of £500,000 for every England cap.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Cooclaret » Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:41 pm

GrahamBranchsPerm wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 7:57 pm
Any chance City say to Trafford.

'Just stay at Burnley, play 38 games, and we take you at the end of the season. Be patient, that's the plan.'

Purely speculating, but that is what would be best for him ad their PSR.

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No, not in a World Cup year. England want him playing and being around a top six club in Europe. JT needs that.

If T Rex gets injuries then they need JT up and running.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Cooclaret » Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:43 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:26 pm
£35m and an add on of £500,000 for every England cap.
That’s 85 million…

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by GetIntoEm » Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:49 pm

If Trafford starts for city, he's starting for England guaranteed

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Claretnick » Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:53 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:41 pm
No, not in a World Cup year. England want him playing and being around a top six club in Europe. JT needs that.

If T Rex gets injuries then they need JT up and running.
Why does this not apply to Pickford as well? A bit harsh on Trafford that he has this stipulation from Tuchel.....

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:57 pm

40 million or more deal. Stand firm boardroom

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Spijed » Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:02 pm

Are Newcastle still desperate to sign him, or has their interest cooled somewhat?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:04 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:02 pm
Are Newcastle still desperate to sign him, or has their interest cooled somewhat?
The experts will be along in a minute.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by billyhamilton82 » Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:07 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:57 pm
40 million or more deal. Stand firm boardroom
They've got us to this point and see no reason why they can't achieve the best possible deal.

They've already held off Newcastle, including their pi55ed up entourage which has allowed time for City to get involved.

This hasn't to be under estimated as a lot of boards would have folded worrried that they would miss out on a pay day.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:11 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:04 pm
The experts will be along in a minute.
Brexit has a pal who works for nukey brown and said Newcastle have pulled out of the deal.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:13 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
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Brexit has a pal who works for nukey brown and said Newcastle have pulled out of the deal.
He always was bang on the money was Ringo. Especially in 2016! ;)
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Enola Gay » Sun Jul 20, 2025 10:58 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 11:01 am
Thanks for using two pre-season quotes from me to justify your argument re: Trafford in the Premier League.

No he wasn’t shocking. He had some difficult games and Kompany hung him out too dry. Then we got Muric back and we saw some proper poor goalkeeping.

Not sure why this all has to do with the transfer thread though.
Hung out to dry by being given a Premier League first team place he hadn’t earned and kept in it for most of the season despite playing as poorly as anyone else in that team?

At some point people are gonna have to accept that for all the many mistakes Kompany made that season the players also have some responsibility for their own performances, and I’m sorry but Trafford was as poor as anyone else.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Commy » Sun Jul 20, 2025 11:30 pm

If they put a £40m buy back clause in the contract that is what they should pay. They should have made it lower if they didn't want to pay it.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jul 21, 2025 2:10 am

If City said 'look Alan 40 is too much, how about 30 and we give you first dibs on loans for the next 10 years with no loan fee" are you taking it ?
I would

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Grimsdale » Mon Jul 21, 2025 2:39 am

City rumoured to be looking Porto goalkeeper, Diogo Costa for €60M
https://x.com/City_Xtra/status/1947089929936175475

Maybe trying to put pressure on us to lower our release clause?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by dermotdermot » Mon Jul 21, 2025 3:26 am

The plot thickens.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Spijed » Mon Jul 21, 2025 7:10 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 2:10 am
If City said 'look Alan 40 is too much, how about 30 and we give you first dibs on loans for the next 10 years with no loan fee" are you taking it ?
I would
As soon as a manager leaves any agreement automatically ends

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Mon Jul 21, 2025 7:19 am

"Confidence that a deal is close has proven to be wishful thinking for Trafford’s team this last year."

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Holtyclaret » Mon Jul 21, 2025 7:40 am

Grimsdale wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 2:39 am
City rumoured to be looking Porto goalkeeper, Diogo Costa for €60M
https://x.com/City_Xtra/status/1947089929936175475

Maybe trying to put pressure on us to lower our release clause?
They’ll need two keepers if two leave you’d imagine and including a new number one.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by martin_p » Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:10 am

Grimsdale wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 2:39 am
City rumoured to be looking Porto goalkeeper, Diogo Costa for €60M
https://x.com/City_Xtra/status/1947089929936175475

Maybe trying to put pressure on us to lower our release clause?
If you don’t drop the price from £40m we’re going to buy a keeper for €60m? Call their bluff I say!
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by claretlegend » Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:27 am

He could end up staying at this rate.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by bumba » Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:39 am

martin_p wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:10 am
If you don’t drop the price from £40m we’re going to buy a keeper for €60m? Call their bluff I say!
Probably because Costa is worth that sort of money, Trafford isn't worth £40 million
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by GetIntoEm » Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:43 am

claretlegend wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:27 am
He could end up staying at this rate.
Let's hope so

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnley007 » Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:01 am

I have a feeling in my bones that this could be another busy week for Matt Williams.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Guller Bull » Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:25 am

burnley007 wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:01 am
I have a feeling in my bones that this could be another busy week for Matt Williams.

I have that same feeling now that the transfer team are back from their training camp in Portugal.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by summitclaret » Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:27 am

GetIntoEm wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:43 am
Let's hope so
That ship has sailed. This time next year he will have less than 11 months left on his contract.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by martin_p » Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:31 am

bumba wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:39 am
Probably because Costa is worth that sort of money, Trafford isn't worth £40 million
But the contract we have with Man City says he is.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by BigGaz » Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:36 am

He's agreed terms I know that much. As it looks like Ederson is off I am not sure we will complete Ortega as they want some continuity in the GK dept.

They're trying to talk us down from 40m still. Phillips is in the conversation but as you can imagine the wages make it unappealing to us unless they give us a lift with it. If he can get anywhere near the player he was in the season before he went to City then we've have stolen him but to quote Carra for now it looks like the football has left him.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:36 am

I'm getting really bored with this window, far too long.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by warksclaret » Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:53 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:36 am
I'm getting really bored with this window, far too long.
....and very tedious too

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:53 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:36 am
I'm getting really bored with this window, far too long.
That's probably because we jumped in too early with signings which has been unheard of in recent years

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:53 am

Guller Bull wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:25 am
I have that same feeling now that the transfer team are back from their training camp in Portugal.
Training camp? I thought it was a holiday?

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