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Re: Osmajić

Post by daveisaclaret » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:12 am

Looks like we'll hit six months without anything happening - it's an absolute disgrace. The FA are making it very clear that their stance on racism is all PR and no action.

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Re: Osmajić

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:22 am

The fly in the ointment appears to be somebody denying the allegation & no concrete evidence stating otherwise as frustrating as that may be! Some people have said from the start you do need something more substantially damning than 2 opposing conflicting accounts.

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Re: Osmajić

Post by billyhamilton82 » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:23 am

I hope they are waiting to hit them when it will hurt most.

Make the decision when the transfer window closes so they can't replace him.

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Re: Osmajić

Post by beddie » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:27 am

I agree that things like this need thorough investigation and the appropriate time to be dealt with but this particular incident has taken far too long. It should have been decided what action if any is required before the new season kicked off. To quote
“ time is a great healer”, I’ll leave you with that one to think about.

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Re: Osmajić

Post by agreenwood » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:47 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:22 am
The fly in the ointment appears to be somebody denying the allegation & no concrete evidence stating otherwise as frustrating as that may be! Some people have said from the start you do need something more substantially damning than 2 opposing conflicting accounts.
The FA don’t need to be certain that he said what Hannibal alleged. The need to be satisfied that it’s more likely than not that he said it (balance of probabilities).

It’s hard to fathom what could possibly be holding up a hearing being set at this point. They’ve had 6 months to collect all the relevant statements. It’s unlikely that they’ve had to bring in lip reading specialists given the lack of a clear TV footage, but even if they have, it shouldn’t be taking this long.

It feels very much like they’ve allowed Preston to stall this or they are simply hoping that it’ll go away quietly. That said, no doubt this clown will be back in front of them again at some point regardless of the outcome of these proceedings. He seems incapable of behaving himself.

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Re: Osmajić

Post by Procrastinate B » Sun Aug 10, 2025 12:15 pm

It’s going to be found ‘unproven’, I’d imagine. Hannibal definitely heard him say it, Osmajic is adamant he said ‘bad’ *******.

I’d imagine the proximity of Osmajic’s face when he was saying whatever he said pretty much renders any camera footage useless.

The length of time this is taking is unfair on both players, the clubs and fans. It needs closure.

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Re: Osmajić

Post by NottsClaret » Sun Aug 10, 2025 12:19 pm

How long did it take for Jay Rod’s case to get resolved when he was accused?

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Re: Osmajić

Post by daveisaclaret » Sun Aug 10, 2025 12:23 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Sun Aug 10, 2025 12:19 pm
How long did it take for Jay Rod’s case to get resolved when he was accused?
3 months

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Re: Osmajić

Post by NottsClaret » Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:04 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 10, 2025 12:23 pm
3 months
Don't see why this is much different then. One player's word against another. It's going to be 'not proven' anyway, just get on with it.

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Re: Osmajić

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:09 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:12 am
Looks like we'll hit six months without anything happening - it's an absolute disgrace. The FA are making it very clear that their stance on racism is all PR and no action.
That’s the sound of the penny dropping I hear!

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Re: Osmajić

Post by daveisaclaret » Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:13 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:04 pm
Don't see why this is much different then. One player's word against another. It's going to be 'not proven' anyway, just get on with it.
There's no particular reason to think it's going to be not proven.

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Re: Osmajić

Post by Duffer_ » Sun Aug 10, 2025 2:35 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:13 pm
There's no particular reason to think it's going to be not proven.
Apart from the ridiculous length of time involved. A very generous interpretation of events, to the FA at least, might be that they feel there is insufficient evidence to find Osmajic guilty but are at least making him sweat on it.

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Re: Osmajić

Post by JarrowClaret » Sun Aug 10, 2025 2:50 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Sun Aug 10, 2025 12:19 pm
How long did it take for Jay Rod’s case to get resolved when he was accused?
Jay Rods case was about the meaning of what was said not necessarily what was said, I don’t think there was ever a question about what Jay said.

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Re: Osmajic

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Aug 10, 2025 3:41 pm

The time it’s taken has been quite alarming bearing in mind there’s only 2 witnesses ( the accused and accuser )
While personally I think it likely that a racial slur of sorts was said to Hannibal , it doesn’t help that it’s “ he said she said “ without any decent footage though . Also not helped by Hannibal being a proven cheat and borderline nutcase for much of last season . Let’s hope for a quick resolution.

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Re: Osmajić

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Aug 10, 2025 3:47 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:13 pm
There's no particular reason to think it's going to be not proven.
I'm surprised the FA haven't asked you to step forward to provide the compelling evidence you purport to possess.

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Re: Osmajic

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:40 pm

Wasn’t something said last week from Preston that the hearing was going to be after the start of the season?
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Re: Osmajić

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:53 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:
Sun Aug 10, 2025 2:50 pm
Jay Rods case was about the meaning of what was said not necessarily what was said, I don’t think there was ever a question about what Jay said.
I’m not sure that’s right.

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Re: Osmajić

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:58 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:
Sun Aug 10, 2025 2:50 pm
Jay Rods case was about the meaning of what was said not necessarily what was said, I don’t think there was ever a question about what Jay said.

It was a question of what was said. Bong claims Jay Rod said: “You’re black and you stink.” Jay Rod claimed he’d said: “Your breath f****** stinks.”

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