Everton v Leeds

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:43 pm

Crazy if that is a pen.

Only thing I know is, if that is us attacking, we don’t get it.

munkyennui · Post by **munkyennui** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:43 pm

Awful decision.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:43 pm

That looked like it hit his arm where the shirt is. I thought it wasn't hand ball then.

ISpeds00 · Post by **ISpeds00** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:43 pm

Never a Pen
But It's Leeds - they were always getting it

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:43 pm

Where were his arms meant to be?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:44 pm

joke of a decision

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:44 pm

Tarkowski handball sucks. It was top of his arm and his hand was behind his back. F ucking refs and var.

jos · Post by **jos** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:44 pm

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:44 pm

Rubbish penalty

Procrastinate B · Post by **Procrastinate B** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:44 pm

Crikey, that was harsh.

TPClaret · Post by **TPClaret** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:44 pm

He never moved his arm towards the ball. 100 percent we’d never get that penalty

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:45 pm

Short arms fails to get there, where a longer arm would have done.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:45 pm

You can't say Leeds haven't deserved it after the first half performance. It's ok, they have Arsenal away next.

Holmechapel · Post by **Holmechapel** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:45 pm

Var cocked up again.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:45 pm

Typical DL homer decision. From behind the goal his lower arm is fully behind his back and his upper arm is tight to his side. He can’t do any more.

scrambledclaret · Post by **scrambledclaret** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:46 pm

I don't really want either of these teams to win but I still have a soft spot for Tarks. That seems harsh. I'd quite like Everton to get an equaliser now

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:47 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:45 pm
Typical DL homer decision. From behind the goal his lower arm is fully behind his back and his upper arm is tight to his side. He can’t do any more.

Exactly and he was moving his chest to make the block. Absolute crap - no matter who is playing, that is not right.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:47 pm

No idea how that's a penalty.

There's nowhere else for him to put his arm.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:48 pm

Grealish going to equalise?

billyhamilton82 · Post by **billyhamilton82** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:48 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:45 pm
Typical DL homer decision. From behind the goal his lower arm is fully behind his back and his upper arm is tight to his side. He can’t do any more.

It also deflected so no way he could have reacted to get out of the way.

Andreshotboots · Post by **Andreshotboots** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:48 pm

Awful decision but as usual they won't want to overturn their mate in the middle will they?

We wouldn't have been awarded that in a million years..

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:49 pm

These are two teams who will be in bottom 6. This Leeds team is no better than last season except maybe the gk

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:49 pm

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:47 pm
No idea how that's a penalty.

There's nowhere else for him to put his arm.

Well, if he doesn't lean towards the ball to block it, it doesn't hit his arm. So in that sense his arm could be somewhere else. This isn't a case of the ball hitting a player who can't get out of the way.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:49 pm

Everton look toothless up front.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:49 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:49 pm
These are two teams who will be in bottom 6. This Leeds team is no better than last season except maybe the gk

If we get a penalty at all, it will not be a match changer.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:50 pm

If that was a pen why was Tarks not booked ?

ISpeds00 · Post by **ISpeds00** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:50 pm

it will all balance out as the season goes on

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:51 pm

Commy wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:49 pm
Everton look toothless up front.

So do Leeds

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:51 pm

Leeds have defended well, but if you’re an Everton fan, you’re a bit worried about how toothless you’ve looked tonight. They’ve barely troubled Leeds.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:51 pm

VAR done some stinkers this weekend

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:51 pm

A lot of these teams, including us, aren't playing their new players yet as they aren't fit enough.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:52 pm

claretspice wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:49 pm
Well, if he doesn't lean towards the ball to block it, it doesn't hit his arm. So in that sense his arm could be somewhere else. This isn't a case of the ball hitting a player who can't get out of the way.

Alright then, ball's only flying at him at about 60mph. He's brought his arms as close to his body as possible and tried to block the ball. It's b*ll*cks.

RickyBobby · Post by **RickyBobby** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:53 pm

The refs are doing what they are told to. It is big for sky and the media if Leeds win. They won’t shut up about it. Refs are told who to favour and it is clear they were told to favour leeds. Next week they will be told to favour everton as it makes a good story if they win their first game at their new stadium. Football is not a sport anymore at the top level, it is entertainment.
Think of wrestling. That is what football is now at the top level.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:54 pm

I’d love to know whether it’s my imagination, but Leeds have always seemed to me to score far more late goals than most. I don’t mean over the last few seasons, but the last few decades.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:54 pm

I thought it was a pen.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:54 pm

Darthlaw wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:51 pm
VAR done some stinkers this weekend

Hopefully not referring to the Crystal Palace free kick which was correctly disallowed

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:55 pm

Everton’s lack of full backs has really cost them tonight, they have had the ball in some really good positions but had no full backs overlapping.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:55 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:54 pm
Hopefully not referring to the Crystal Palace free kick which was correctly disallowed

More the 'accidental' handball where the chap slapped it away from the Liverpool player on halfway, on Friday night

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:56 pm

Leeds have a habit despite their energy of becoming “Leeds 0” against a good defence, like against us last season.

I don’t count iffy pens where the biased VAR back up their buddies in the ref’s union.

So the key is defence. Hopefully ours is better. Everton will survive on that this season.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:59 pm

Oh dear. Just what we didn’t want to happen has happened - Burnley lose and Leeds and Sunderland both win.

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:59 pm

Think we’d all be happy if Burnley turned in the performance Leeds did there. I think if we’d had played Everton first game, it would be far more cagey with us showing them too much respect.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 10:01 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:54 pm
Hopefully not referring to the Crystal Palace free kick which was correctly disallowed

You are right but you do wonder if the big clubs benefit from the calls I can remember marc cucurella doing the exact same thing as Marc ghuei against Bournemouth & that goal stood. I don't think people have problems with the rules being applied correctly but you have to apply the rules correctly for everybody without selecting.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 10:01 pm

It was in the script. Leeds are back where they belong according to the pundits
They were always going to win this game and Everton were robbed

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 10:02 pm

Refereeing is shambolic at all levels of the game. It makes it worse when they’ve got VAR. it’s borderline embarrassing.

Noticed Kitching or Kitchen or whatever he’s called was the 4th official - he’s another woeful ref

Procrastinate B · Post by **Procrastinate B** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 10:02 pm

One game down, both our fellow promotion sides had easier games at home.

No panic.

BobSykes · Post by **BobSykes** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 10:04 pm

No great shock of course, but still hoped Everton would run out winners in the end.

No getting away from it, that's a nightmare start for us though. Long way to go....

Claretincraven · Post by **Claretincraven** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 10:04 pm

One nil to the referee, one nil to the referee.

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 10:05 pm

Everton are sh!te.

It's beyond me how they stay up every season.

Carport · Post by **Carport** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 10:05 pm

Penalty.

A handball offence only occurs if the player deliberately moves their hand/arm towards the ball or if the arm’s position makes the body unnaturally bigger in that situation

Tarks leant to his left to make deliberate contact with the ball.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Mon Aug 18, 2025 10:06 pm

I hope I’m wrong, and I’m sure someone will hurl insults my way for this, but I seriously worry about what will happen to us this season. Leeds and Sunderland look to have signed more quality whilst we’ve got around 40 players who are all on a similar level - not quite good enough for the league we’re in. The atmospheres at both grounds are far beyond what our fans create at the Turf.

As I said, I pray I’m wrong.