Koleosho gone

[Jmw]

A journalist just said “koleosho has left today”, Parker nodded and they carried on.. where has he gone?

[fidelcastro]

Espanyol?

I won't be losing any sleep, if true.

[JohnMac]

I hope he can develop his potential at Espanyol. Like quite a few younger players brought in and thrust into the spotlight, he was expected to be perfect every game. He has a lot to offer with the right coaching and we may well see him return with more maturity.

[FCBurnley]

He beat Leeds last season

[fidelcastro]

He beat Leeds last season

It wasn't just him. It was a good team performance.

[claretcarrot93]

It wasn't just him. It was a good team performance.

Only one capable of scoring that goal because he is the only one with any pace. Something all top level sides need and something we are distinctly lacking. Needs addressing before window shuts

[fidelcastro]

Only one capable of scoring that goal because he is the only one with any pace. Something all top level sides need and something we are distinctly lacking. Needs addressing before window shuts

No use having pace if all you usually do is constantly bump into opposition players.

A side of his game that will hopefully improve with this loan spell (if true).

I wish him well.

[claretcarrot93]

No use having pace if all you usually do is constantly bump into opposition players.

A side of his game that will hopefully improve with this loan spell (if true).

I wish him well.

Would have got more space at this level as teems will be pushing up rather than defending deep.

[fidelcastro]

Would have got more space at this level as teems will be pushing up rather than defending deep.

Presumably Parker doesn't think so, plus we already have better in his position.

I've never got this idea that some players are better suited to the PL than the Championship. People are saying the same about Foster, but I'm yet to be convinced.

[tarkys_ears]

File under Zaroury

How DO we drum creativity and speed out of these players?!

[claretcarrot93]

Presumably Parker doesn't think so, plus we already have better in his position.

I've never got this idea that some players are better suited to the PL than the Championship. People are saying the same about Foster, but I'm yet to be convinced.

In champ we had more of the ball so teams defend deep negating pace and space in behind.

Then you go t0o having little of the ball so defending deep yourselves and need pace to get you up the pitch. Fosters performance on Saturday was better than any of his last season in championship. Anthony and Edwards are better footballers than koleosho but neither have his pace that could have helped with that.

[burnmark]

File under Zaroury

How DO we drum creativity and speed out of these players?!

I made a jovial bet with somebody a year ago today that Koleosho wouldn’t get anywhere near the goals and assists that Zaroury did in his Championship season. I know which player I’d rather have.

Good luck to the lad.

[BurnleyFC]

Shite decision.

He was one of the most promising players at the under 21 Euros.

[fidelcastro]

In champ we had more of the ball so teams defend deep negating pace and space in behind.

Then you go t0o having little of the ball so defending deep yourselves and need pace to get you up the pitch. Fosters performance on Saturday was better than any of his last season in championship. Anthony and Edwards are better footballers than koleosho but neither have his pace that could have helped with that.

Not been confirmed yet, so maybe you'll get your wish and Koleosho will suddenly go from very average Championship player to PL superstar!

[willsclarets]

People keep referring to Leeds. It's what he did in the Premier league last time that gave me hope. He was consistently our biggest threat once he established himself

[RVclaret]

On the face of it, not one I can fully get behind. I’d hoped he’d be competing with Anthony for a starting spot. But it’s understandable that Anthony is the first pick there. That led me to think Luca wanted this move, and this lines up with this from Parker just now:

“It probably comes down to game time and this being something Luca wanted. He wanted guaranteed game time and I can't guarantee him that, so it was probably best for all parties - for Luca's development, for us as a football club as well.“

[Silkyskills1]

In champ we had more of the ball so teams defend deep negating pace and space in behind.

Fosters performance on Saturday was better than any of his last season in championship. Anthony and Edwards are better footballers than koleosho but neither have his pace that could have helped with that.

Foster's performance last Saturday is achieving levels of expertise with unprecedented rapidity the more I read about it.
If Anthony and Edwards had Koleosho's speed they wouldn't have rocked up at Turf Moor.

[ashtonlongsider]

I know it's all about opinion but if we've let him go I think it's a diabolical decision. I know he's not been the same since his injury but sometimes it takes players longer to adjust. I'm sure there's a top player there if nurtured.

[claretcarrot93]

Foster's performance last Saturday is achieving levels of expertise with unprecedented rapidity the more I read about it.
If Anthony and Edwards had Koleosho's speed they wouldn't have rocked up at Turf Moor.

Thats fair and i am not saying he was very good he were just poor in championship. More space in behind suits his game better

[claretcarrot93]

Not been confirmed yet, so maybe you'll get your wish and Koleosho will suddenly go from very average Championship player to PL superstar!

Ah good old obnoxiousfidel strikes again.

[DCWat]

Should, with hindsight have been sold last summer, when his stock was high and there was apparent interest. If our model is to buy young and cheap, we’ve got to get better at identifying when to sell.

The same could have been said for the likes of Benson and Zaroury, the summer before.

I get that it’s not necessarily easy to pick the exact right time to sell, but if this is our model, we’re not getting the timing quite right in the second part of the process.

If we’ve people identifying these type of players to buy, surely it’s someone’s job to be assessing the time to cash in.

[1914tyrone]

43 league games
3 goals
1 assist

Quick
Good dribbling
Enthusiastic
Needs to work on final product, which has been missing from the start.

[fidelcastro]

Ah good old obnoxiousfidel strikes again.

Not really. I just don't get what all the fuss is about where Koleosho is concerned.

The biggest positive is that he wants to play, and that's much better than him stealing a wage by sitting on the bench or not even in the squad.

As I said before, I wish him well.

[daveisaclaret]

Impossible to make a proper call on this until we find out whether his eventual permanent transfer is for our benefit or Espanyol's.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Hopefully he gets plenty of game time, who knows he might impress Barca or one of the Madrid sides if he has a brilliant season

[beddie]

Isn’t Mike expected to go there or is that just hearsay.

[fidelcastro]

Isn’t Mike expected to go there or is that just hearsay.

What if he refuses to play?

[mickleoverclaret]

Should, with hindsight have been sold last summer, when his stock was high and there was apparent interest. If our model is to buy young and cheap, we’ve got to get better at identifying when to sell.

The same could have been said for the likes of Benson and Zaroury, the summer before.

I get that it’s not necessarily easy to pick the exact right time to sell, but if this is our model, we’re not getting the timing quite right in the second part of the process.

If we’ve people identifying these type of players to buy, surely it’s someone’s job to be assessing the time to cash in.

In isolation we might have accepted the bid from Wolves, but the fact that we were absolutely haemorrhaging players at the time made it difficult to do. Think we all expected him to make more of an impact on the pitch, too.

[Jakubclaret]

Should, with hindsight have been sold last summer, when his stock was high and there was apparent interest. If our model is to buy young and cheap, we’ve got to get better at identifying when to sell.

The same could have been said for the likes of Benson and Zaroury, the summer before.

I get that it’s not necessarily easy to pick the exact right time to sell, but if this is our model, we’re not getting the timing quite right in the second part of the process.

If we’ve people identifying these type of players to buy, surely it’s someone’s job to be assessing the time to cash in.

He would have gone for sure if wanted. it didn't take 2 mins for odobert to get picked off. You can only get the second part right if the players are in demand & wanted. The club might have faults & shortfalls in terms of recruitment but when it comes down to refusing hard cash that's not one of them.

[Pearcey]

Good move for me. Other than the first part of our premier league season he’s been lacking end product. He’s young so hopefully he’ll do well there and either come back or be sold for a good profit.

[Pickles]

The only loss here is that we should've tried to sell him last summer. He looks like a good player but only for about thirty seconds every game. He's quick but has one good shot every six months and one half decent cross every twelve months. Hope he kicks on. Nice place to be living.

[123EasyasBFC]

It’s easy to say in hindsight we should have accepted wolves bid last summer. Nobody knew what kind of player koleosho was going to come back and be like. It’s can’t be solely on Parker for not getting the best out of him, there has to be some onus put on koleosho himself. Hopefully he comes back a better player.

People saying why would koleosho want to play for the club again, well he’s got a 4 year deal and he could of asked to go out on loan to play consistently. We have no idea who the manager will be next summer. When Roberts went on loan to Leeds, nobody thought he wanted to play for the club again and performed to a great level last season.

[claretonthecoast1882]

It’s easy to say in hindsight we should have accepted wolves bid last summer. Nobody knew what kind of player koleosho was going to come back and be like. It’s can’t be solely on Parker for not getting the best out of him, there has to be some onus put on koleosho himself. Hopefully he comes back a better player.

People saying why would koleosho want to play for the club again, well he’s got a 4 year deal and he could of asked to go out on loan to play consistently. We have no idea who the manager will be next summer. When Roberts went on loan to Leeds, nobody thought he wanted to play for the club again and performed to a great level last season.

Can also remember the panic by some when it was described as a fire sale and his name was mentioned as being sold to Wolves, I don't recall many saying sell him.

[JarrowClaret]

Isn’t Mike expected to go there or is that just hearsay.

It was mentioned by Matt Scrafton (I think) that Mike would
Not be following Koleosho to Espanol

[Jakubclaret]

Can also remember the panic by some when it was described as a fire sale and his name was mentioned as being sold to Wolves, I don't recall many saying sell him.

"I don't recall many saying sell him" pretty pointless had they done there was no way wolves were stumping up the £40 big bucks we reportedly wanted I think somebody got cheekily carried away with the valuations. You couldn't think of a better textbook guide in how not to sell a player if you tried or somebody thought the coffee supplies had ran out at molineux.

[fidelcastro]

"I don't recall many saying sell him" pretty pointless had they done there was no way wolves were stumping up the £40 big bucks we reportedly wanted I think somebody got cheekily carried away with the valuations. You couldn't think of a better textbook guide in how not to sell a player if you tried or somebody thought the coffee supplies had ran out at molineux.

I'm far from Koleosho's biggest fan, but even I think he's worth more than 40 quid!

[equinox]

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[Enola Gay]

It's a shame if he is going because his pace would absolutely be an asset.

Against that though, the last few times I've seen him he's pretty much defined 'flatters to deceive' and he looks like if you put him in the middle of the Bonneville Salt Flats he'd still find a blind alley to run into. Which would be fine if he had the smarts to spot the overloads elsewhere on the pitch his pace generates, but he doesn't look like he has.

He needs games to learn the mental side of the game as much as anything else and we probably can't afford to give him that time here.

[Claretfanatic1982]

"I don't recall many saying sell him" pretty pointless had they done there was no way wolves were stumping up the £40 big bucks we reportedly wanted I think somebody got cheekily carried away with the valuations. You couldn't think of a better textbook guide in how not to sell a player if you tried or somebody thought the coffee supplies had ran out at molineux.

I'm actually in agreement. There's no chance that Wolves would have offered £40m.

Being honest, I don't even think they made an official bid or offer.

[fatboy47]

It's a shame if he is going because his pace would absolutely be an asset.

Against that though, the last few times I've seen him he's pretty much defined 'flatters to deceive' and he looks like if you put him in the middle of the Bonneville Salt Flats he'd still find a blind alley to run into. Which would be fine if he had the smarts to spot the overloads elsewhere on the pitch his pace generates, but he doesn't look like he has.

He needs games to learn the mental side of the game as much as anything else and we probably can't afford to give him that time here.

Sums it up I'd say....presuming we're not doing mate's rates on the loan deal.

[ollieclarets8]

Sums it up I'd say....presuming we're not doing mate's rates on the loan deal.

It's mate's rates on a permanent deal next summer that I'm half expecting.

[Jakubclaret]

I'm actually in agreement. There's no chance that Wolves would have offered £40m.

Being honest, I don't even think they made an official bid or offer.

That indeed is a possibility we'll never know. I know some people were carried away on here (usual suspects) on the back of a couple of a good games & you would be forgiven as an infrequent visitor to the forum imparting with the impression we had some maradona/pele on our hands.

[DCWat]

In isolation we might have accepted the bid from Wolves, but the fact that we were absolutely haemorrhaging players at the time made it difficult to do. Think we all expected him to make more of an impact on the pitch, too.

Fair point regarding the number of players departing, at the time. Presumably though, the club was well aware that they had replacements lined up, even so, they perhaps didn’t fancy further backlash - it did get pretty toxic for a while!

[Bacchus]

If he has a good season there we get an improved, 21 year old winger with three years left on his deal. If he doesn't have a good season there then it maybe reflects that he wouldn't have had much to offer us either.

It's in everyone's interest that he gets game time and begins to show some of the potential we all think he has. The last thing he needs is another in and out season with the odd 15 minutes from the bench which, ultimately, is all he's likely to get here.

[Newcastleclaret93]

This is the best situation for everyone.

Goes on loan plays regularly and hopefully becomes a better player.

We then either sell him for big money or he integrates back into the team.

Absolutely zero point him staying in the squad at Burnley as he’s arguably 5th or 6th choice (potentially even 7th).

Big year for Koleosho

[aggi]

Was there actually a big bid for him last year or was it just some made up twitter stuff like the £25m bid for Foster?

[Cirrus_Minor]

Clearly talented, but he always seems to go one dribble too far or too eager to push on and makes the wrong decision. Maybe, if he gets plenty of game time, he might develop since he is certainly young enough.

Right decision for me.

[ClaretAndJew]

Start worrying if we start paying overinflated prices for Espanyol's sub par players.

[Walkerpool]

He will have a very good career

[equinox]

What's the definition (your) of a 'Good career'?

I'm not being a cock, I'm genuinely interested.