Moyes gone at Sunderland

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:03 pm

He's resigned

HyperClaret · Post by **HyperClaret** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:05 pm

Wow Tony you found out fast I only just heard it on the radio as breaking news

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:09 pm

HyperClaret wrote:Wow Tony you found out fast I only just heard it on the radio as breaking news

I got an alert on my phone just as I'd hit the button to start a new thread so switched to that.

CrispyClaret · Post by **CrispyClaret** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:12 pm

Their goes probably his last chance to prove himself as a manager, put him into the permanently unemployed alongside Horseface.

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:14 pm

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:15 pm

Tony is always on the button.
Breaking news rely on Tony

Touchline · Post by **Touchline** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:16 pm

Let's hope Sean isn't interested in the Championship.

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:23 pm

6..Did you give your teacher lots of apples?

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:25 pm

HyperClaret wrote:Wow Tony you found out fast I only just heard it on the radio as breaking news

I knew last August!

levraiclaret · Post by **levraiclaret** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:27 pm

This is not good news.

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:29 pm

It's neither good nor bad, so long as he doesn't one day end up with us.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:31 pm

HatfieldClaret wrote:It's neither good nor bad, so long as he doesn't one day end up with us.

Has no direct effect on us but agree with HatfieldClaret, I wouldn't want him anywhere near us. He's had a bad time since leaving Everton and I don't think he's going to get another decent job.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:35 pm

I think he will come good again. Did a decent job at Preston and Everton. Think Man U was always going to be difficult so that leaves his time in Spain and at Blunderland.
But what do I know of managers

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:37 pm

I'm sure he rues the day he ever left Everton. His bank manager would disagree though

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:46 pm

I wonder if Sam Allardyce or Tony Pullis would have succeeded at Sunderland?

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:48 pm

apparently Michael Gray, an x player of there has just said on Talk sport that nine of there players refused to play this weekend either directly or by feigning injury .

he said he knew that the club were trying to move at least 15 players on,,,,

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:58 pm

Goalposts wrote:he said he knew that the club were trying to move at least 15 players on,,,,

That is no surprise. There are a lot of high earners there that don't have a relegation reduction clause in their contracts apparently

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon May 22, 2017 5:59 pm

Sunderland is a complete mess. The owner and Moyes had agreed he would stay but reports yesterday suggested he'd go after discussions with the players.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon May 22, 2017 6:02 pm

Stitched up in August when he was told there was no money to spend and again last week when he was told the owner was going to trouser all the monies from the parachute payments
This smacks of that nice man at Blackpool and we all know where the Lashers ended up and no I don't mean Wembley.
Best fit for the Mackems is Warnock.He can make shite perform and that something Sunderland have by the lorry load.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon May 22, 2017 6:07 pm

Another club who fell into the trap of overpaying in wages to average players.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon May 22, 2017 6:15 pm

levraiclaret wrote:This is not good news.

In what way?

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon May 22, 2017 6:21 pm

moyes, good man, good manager, sunderland are in a mess, useless club.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon May 22, 2017 6:49 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:In what way?

Dyche to Sunderland rumours starting in 5....4....3....2....

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon May 22, 2017 6:55 pm

He was on a loser if he stayed. The Yank has no intention of putting any more money into the club, and without it they could be down for a very long time. He's wise enough to know who would get the blame.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon May 22, 2017 6:56 pm

They're almost as much of a car crash as Deadwood.

Be daft to go.

holdyourfire · Post by **holdyourfire** » Mon May 22, 2017 6:56 pm

CrispyClaret wrote:Their goes probably his last chance to prove himself as a manager, put him into the permanently unemployed alongside Horseface.

I reckon he will be in for the bstrds job when mowbray runs away.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon May 22, 2017 6:58 pm

People think Dyche is negative, Moyes might be the most negative manager around. He didn't believe they would stay up from the first week he arrived.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon May 22, 2017 7:10 pm

He was gone before the season started!

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon May 22, 2017 7:18 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:moyes, good man, good manager, sunderland are in a mess, useless club.

Problem is at some point people will stop blaming the club and look at the manager....

He's got one chance left I reckon where he could shift the blame on to the club.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon May 22, 2017 7:19 pm

what colour tie do you wear on Transfer deadline day Tony ?

Jacka · Post by **Jacka** » Mon May 22, 2017 7:50 pm

Thank god

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Mon May 22, 2017 7:50 pm

Dyche's name being fairly heavily touted for it on Radio 5 earlier with Ellis Short said to be an admirer. With "big club" jobs seemingly closed to British managers could it possibly be that SD might see reawakening a dormant big beast in The,Championship as his best chance of progression personally, as opposed to waiting for Pulis or Allardyce to expire ? After all it's possible to make the case that this might possibly be as good as his cv gets here whereas all there is with the,Mackens now is upside.
I know this is a touch pessimistic but I am a worrier !!

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Mon May 22, 2017 7:50 pm

Dyche's name being fairly heavily touted for it on Radio 5 earlier with Ellis Short said to be an admirer. With "big club" jobs seemingly closed to British managers could it possibly be that SD might see reawakening a dormant big beast in The,Championship as his best chance of progression personally, as opposed to waiting for Pulis or Allardyce to expire ? After all it's possible to make the case that this might possibly be as good as his cv gets here whereas all there is with the,Mackems now is upside.
I know this is a touch pessimistic but I am a worrier !!

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon May 22, 2017 7:51 pm

Reawaken a dormant beast???

Sunderland need more work then we did when he arrived.

Jacka · Post by **Jacka** » Mon May 22, 2017 7:56 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Dyche to Sunderland rumours starting in 5....4....3....2....

Just been seen checking in to Seaham Hall!

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Mon May 22, 2017 7:57 pm

Err...yes. They are truly dormant. But they are "big" in terms of fanbase and ultimate potential and hence my comments given where SD is in his career at right now and the constraints he faces. I hope my anxiety is
misplaced and , having vented it for therapeutic reasons, I welcome anyone persuading me I have nowt to worry about.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Mon May 22, 2017 7:58 pm

It would be an excellent job for Dyche to walk into to be fair. The size of the club, the stadium and the infrastructure surpasses us in our current guise, albeit a division below.

You'd have to be naive to think it wouldn't be a head turner for him. Hopefully not though.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Mon May 22, 2017 7:59 pm

He's not the first and won't be the last Scot to have his life destroyed by Heroin.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Mon May 22, 2017 8:00 pm

Diesel wrote:He does of course have other options in life, football isn't everything.

FTFY

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Mon May 22, 2017 8:02 pm

There you go, ^^^^

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon May 22, 2017 8:04 pm

Whoever goes there is going to have a huge rebuilding job on their hands.

Remember one of their local journalists on radio 5 before Christmas saying the problem they have with changing managers yearly is there obviously is no long term plan and also a huge squad full of well paid players who when a new manager comes in find themselves out of the squad. He actually hoped they would give Moyes a number of years to formulate some plan even if they got relegated.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon May 22, 2017 8:17 pm

If the rumours are true that they ended the season with players finding excuses not to play then they're going to need major work to the playing squad.

Short doesn't want to sink more money into the pit...
Players overpaid.
Defoe leaving.
Lescott

.

Nah Dyche won't go there, they simply aren't a step up anymore.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Mon May 22, 2017 8:21 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:It would be an excellent job for Dyche to walk into to be fair. The size of the club, the stadium and the infrastructure surpasses us in our current guise, albeit a division below.

You'd have to be naive to think it wouldn't be a head turner for him. Hopefully not though.

Give your f uckin' head a wobble, ya daft twunt.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Mon May 22, 2017 8:24 pm

Don't be mean, Beamish.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Mon May 22, 2017 8:25 pm

I thought they'd all agreed he'd stay and have a crack at next season. Or did I dream that?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon May 22, 2017 8:33 pm

they won't be doing a Newcastle that's for sure. Giggs the current favourite

IrkthePurists · Post by **IrkthePurists** » Mon May 22, 2017 8:51 pm

The days of leaving a PL club for a championship club are over thanks to Sky methinks.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon May 22, 2017 8:53 pm

Bruce did it, but he left a basket case to one a bit more stable.
I couldn't see Dyche leaving a secure job to sign up for a Basket case club.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Mon May 22, 2017 10:15 pm

Pearson currently favourite on SkyBet at 5/2

Dyche at 16/1 along with Kevin Ball & Stefan Schwarz