If Gray goes who would you like in

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by SGr » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:08 pm

Shane Long just isn't good enough. Vokes scored as many last season as he's ever managed, we need someone with proven ability (and yes, that does mean spending a lot of money)
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Mala591 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:08 pm

Wood or Jerome or Vibe would be on my list of possibilities.

http://www.worldfootball.net/goalgetter ... 2016-2017/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:11 pm

Mala591 wrote:Wood or Jerome or Vibe would be on my list of possibilities.

http://www.worldfootball.net/goalgetter ... 2016-2017/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Wood is exactly the same sort of player as Vokes, Barnes and Walters. Jerome do you mean Cameron Jerome??

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Braindead » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:11 pm

Cameron Jerome - hell no

Wouldn't mind Kodija (Although he is injured at the mo), Wood or Gayle

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:12 pm

Bony on loan is a decent shout. We need pace not another target man.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:13 pm

Mala591 wrote:Wood or Jerome or Vibe would be on my list of possibilities.

http://www.worldfootball.net/goalgetter ... 2016-2017/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Have you ever watched football?
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Diesel » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:14 pm

You did say 'would you like' so Moussa Dembélé from Celtic please.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by fatboy47 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:20 pm

Has the Samuel lad from Reading been snapped up yet ?

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Longsidejono » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:24 pm

Niasse or Calvert lewin on loan from Everton
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:25 pm

Diesel wrote:You did say 'would you like' so Moussa Dembélé from Celtic please.
Aguero it is.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by ClaretEngineer » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:28 pm

Usain Bolt now he's retiring from running about.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:29 pm

Longsidejono wrote:Niasse or Calvert lewin on loan from Everton
Niasse......Please no

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:31 pm

We already splashed out on Walters
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Top Claret » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:33 pm

Can't believe people are touting Bony he has done nothing since he left city. I can guarantee that Dyche would not have him within a million miles of this football club.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Ightenclaret » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:34 pm

Dirty Diego Costa - use the money to pay his wages until January at least, by which time we should be safe. Result.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Pearcey » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:38 pm

Deeney and Ings would do for me.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by PutTheWheelieBinsOut » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:39 pm

I just hope we go with a really radical approach, and bring another quality forward in, before letting Gray leave.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:41 pm

Try and buy Ryan Kent on the cheap from Liverpool. Looked a very tidy player in pre-season, not as a replacement for gray as he's a winger but just a suggestion.

Looking like we may have to go abroad to find a genuine goal scorer though

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by lucs86 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:59 pm

Bony's more of a big lad than a quick lad, we definitley need someone more in the quick lad mould.

I'd have Long all day, plenty pace, endeavour and aerial threat. I reckon he'd score more than Gray in our side and he'd fit the team well too.

Don't know about another forward, just somoeone quick and probably unproven and on loan. Or Max Gradel? He still out of favour at Bounemouth?

What we should do though, once we've got even more money, let's bully Brentford into selling us Jota. Always makes us feel better taking Brentford's best player.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by ayrshireclaret83 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:03 pm

Dembele from Celtic

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by KateR » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:06 pm

Zlatan I is available on a free, put all the money in to his wages and bonuses, make him honorary King of Burnley, he would do a job for us :)

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:07 pm

I sense that we will end up with Jonny Russell. It's just the most Burnley thing ever

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by claretspice » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:09 pm

Not convinced that Long is clinical enough to be what we really need, although his ability to play wide and up front would be attractive. He's on big old wages too.

Mame Biram Diouf might be one shout, who is relatively well established in the Premier League and reportedly not completely happy playing out wide/at wing back from Stoke. Dwight Gayle might be another name in a similar mould. Ings gets touted but his injury record makes him too big a risk on anything but a loan with a view to buy basis. Niasse is a possibility but his record is a bit patchy...etc.

But realistically, it is going to be tough. Even those more modest targets from with the division are going to be on relative fortunes, and there aren't too many players from the Championship who stand our as being ready made replacements. I think ultimately we might be better looking for someone who can give us a real injection of pace on the right wing rather than a centre forward, and looking to play with Vokes as the main striker with Walters or Barnes with him, or Defour and Hendrick in a midfield 3.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Hendrickxz » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:09 pm

Jota is an attacking midfielder, but I'd have him any way. Piddled all over Rovers in the last match of the season, then maybe add a loan of someone who is out of favour at their own club.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by NickBFC » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:12 pm

Quite like the look of Zapata. Has the key ingredients for success in the PL, and what we need: Pace, power, big lad, can handle the loan role if required. Granted he hasn't been banging in the goals but we're unlikely to find a 15-20 goal season striker within our budget. A season loan with an agreed fee/first option next summer if he impresses could be good business.

I like Bony too but is a little similar to what we already have, and wages obviously a massive stumbling block unless City would heavily contribute.

As for Long, maybe last summer but not convinced he's what we need now despite his obvious pace. Whatever (if anything) the club decide to do, it absolutely has to be a good replacement for Andre.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:14 pm

One thing is for sure with Bony is that City would contribute to the wages.

He's probably the prefered option for me, but you have to question why he hasn't done a thing since leaving Swansea.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by HelloHiGoodbye » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:14 pm

The suggestions on this thread are either 1) ridiculously unrealistic or 2) underwhelming.

And that says it all.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by NickBFC » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:16 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:One thing is for sure with Bony is that City would contribute to the wages.

He's probably the prefered option for me, but you have to question why he hasn't done a thing since leaving Swansea.
Moved to the wrong club. Decent and effective player for Swansea, but realistically out of his depth at City in company of Aguero etc. Looks to me to be a decent player for clubs in the bottom half/pushing top half. You would think he'd have more attractive options than us, but it depends how much he values game time.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:17 pm

claretspice wrote:Not convinced that Long is clinical enough to be what we really need, although his ability to play wide and up front would be attractive. He's on big old wages too.

Mame Biram Diouf might be one shout, who is relatively well established in the Premier League and reportedly not completely happy playing out wide/at wing back from Stoke. Dwight Gayle might be another name in a similar mould. Ings gets touted but his injury record makes him too big a risk on anything but a loan with a view to buy basis. Niasse is a possibility but his record is a bit patchy...etc.

But realistically, it is going to be tough. Even those more modest targets from with the division are going to be on relative fortunes, and there aren't too many players from the Championship who stand our as being ready made replacements. I think ultimately we might be better looking for someone who can give us a real injection of pace on the right wing rather than a centre forward, and looking to play with Vokes as the main striker with Walters or Barnes with him, or Defour and Hendrick in a midfield 3.

Diouf is a wildcard shout. And would be a good player. But doesnt score enough goals to be a direct striker.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:17 pm

NickBFC wrote:Quite like the look of Zapata. Has the key ingredients for success in the PL, and what we need: Pace, power, big lad, can handle the loan role if required. Granted he hasn't been banging in the goals but we're unlikely to find a 15-20 goal season striker within our budget. A season loan with an agreed fee/first option next summer if he impresses could be good business.

I like Bony too but is a little similar to what we already have, and wages obviously a massive stumbling block unless City would heavily contribute.

As for Long, maybe last summer but not convinced he's what we need now despite his obvious pace. Whatever (if anything) the club decide to do, it absolutely has to be a good replacement for Andre.
Would love it to be true but would be very surprised.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by claretdj » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:20 pm

Bony? Absolutely zero chance of getting him.. we will end up with Crouch.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Reecey1987 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:21 pm

I doubt its any if the names mentioned going off what royboy claret said yesterday thats if hes correct of course

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:22 pm

Long would seem the most likely option based on Ireland, personality and pace. Seems the type Dyche would want.

Then Bony, Ings or another top 6 reserve.

What's for sure is we have a ton of money to throw at it. I wouldn't be surprised if we spent £50m between now and the end of the month, or in January.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Silkyskills1 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:22 pm

Hendrickxz wrote:Jota is an attacking midfielder, but I'd have him any way. Piddled all over Rovers in the last match of the season, then maybe add a loan of someone who is out of favour at their own club.
I think he's a very talented player but he did sod all v Rovers from what I saw.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Commy » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:23 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:I love Vokes. Probably one of my favourite Burnley players ever. But he wont score 20 goals just with a change of style.
The reason he kept scoring towards the end of the season is because we started crossing the ball at every opportunity from the Palace game. For a change he was attacking the ball instead of having to hold it up with his back to goal. If we keep doing that he will score a lot more than last season.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by jedi_master » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:25 pm

Bony will be on 100k plus at City.

I would love him here and he would suit the proposed 451/433 but I am unconvinced we could get him either loan or permanent.
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Goobs » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:28 pm

Would like either Ings or Lookman.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:29 pm

Lookman is more a winger . Is Abel Hernandez still at Hull?

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by jedi_master » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:32 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:Lookman is more a winger . Is Abel Hernandez still at Hull?
He is but his record in this league is dreadful. He seems to be in the Rob Earnshaw category of 'too good for the Championshiop, not good enough for the Premier League'.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:34 pm

If you had to chose from Niasse or Hernandez who would you have?

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Goobs » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:41 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:Lookman is more a winger . Is Abel Hernandez still at Hull?
looking for someone who can play either in behind Vokes or at the side in a three up top ideally. I think Lookman would fit the job spec perfectly as would Ings.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Woonderbah » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:42 pm

I think we should use the Michael Keane money and develop and build a time machine... pop back to 2006 and buy Gareth Bale from Southampton.
More plausible than some suggestions on here.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:53 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:If you had to chose from Niasse or Hernandez who would you have?
That's like a choice between a kick in the balls or a kick in the face
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Mattster » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:53 pm

It's a tough one because you've got 2 routes to take. The club either goes for option 1 of proven Prem ability and experience woth someone like Long. Or they go for option 2 of a gamble on someone younger with no/limited Prem experience.

Option 1 will lumber the club with a bigger wage and a player expecting to start every week with little to no resale value but you know you're getting someone who'll bag around 10 goals if used regularly.

Option 2 probably comes with a bigger fee but smaller wages, a player wanting to prove themselves and earn the starting spot and potential of resale value. However you have no guarantees and could end up losing the cash on a player scoring few goals.

Assombalonga was an option 2 type but now he's gone do they have any others lined up? I doubt it. (It seems silly that we quibbled over the asking price if we wanted him and have now sold out striker for more money). So IMO the club will likely fall back on an option 1 type player.

The problem with that is, as Dyche often puts it, the Prem is a league of fine margins. Given our dealings this summer I'm not sure a solid, known quantity will be enough to put us on the right side of that margin whereas a gamble may just do it.

From watching a fair bit of European football 2 players I'd throw into the ring are Bobby Wood or Moussa Marega.

Wood is very similar to Gray, better technically but just a little weaker finisher. He'd also be a big commercial opportunity for Burnley to recoup the outlay because of his USMNT status.

Marega would be a big gamble but he has all the qualities that Dyche would like. Worked his way up from lower leagues, big, strong, fast and hard working. Technically a bit poor and his linkup play isn't the best but he could be a revelation (or a flop, granted). Liga NOS is obviously a weak league but players have made that step before.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:56 pm

Really struggling to see how Wood is similar to Gray.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:00 pm

Wood is similar to Vokes!

And I can't see why we would have to go for just one option of the experienced Prem striker or the young/unproven, if the boot fits then grab one of each , loan out Agyei to the Championship and carry on our progress

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:00 pm

Bobby Wood is fast, young and can finish. Of course he's similar to Gray.
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Mattster » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:01 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Really struggling to see how Wood is similar to Gray.
Bobby Wood, not Chris Wood.

https://youtu.be/wBis99MJK1Q

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:02 pm

There's so little football knowledge on this board it's painful.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:04 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:There's so little football knowledge on this board it's painful.
True. Not everyone is as knowledgeable as you.

;)

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