Incident in Barcelona

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:33 pm

Van mounts pavement and ploughs into several people. Sad times but it's unsurprising and it's sad that it is that way. Hope there are no fatalities

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:37 pm

Sad news,the bastards are back,WTF do they get out of murdering innocent bystanders...I despair for every single one of us.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:37 pm

Hang on a minute lets not jump to conclusions ......

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:38 pm

Thread deleted in 3...2...1

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:39 pm

About 20 wounded and driver has fled on foot, according to el Periodico

http://www.elperiodico.com/es/barcelona ... na-6228813

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:39 pm

I was there last week with my wife and kids. We really loved the day walking down Las Ramblas and taking in the culture of the City. Some of the architecture is magnificent. How horrible to think that others doing exactly the same have been injured in this way. The world is a mad place at the moment. Nobody knows where the next incident will happen. Fingers crossed there aren't any fatalities.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:41 pm

The usual suspects straight into this thread, gagging to spew their bile.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:44 pm

I ain't jumping to conclusions it's obvious what's happened.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:44 pm

claretandy wrote:Hang on a minute lets not jump to conclusions ......

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:45 pm

Walton wrote:The usual suspects straight into this thread, gagging to spew their bile.

Who might they be Walton ?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:45 pm

Shootout underway

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:46 pm

Walton wrote:The usual suspects straight into this thread, gagging to spew their bile.

No different to the bile that gets spread on here about trump. But let's keep it to the topic shall we instead of sly digging.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:46 pm

claretandy wrote:Hang on a minute lets not jump to conclusions ......

Quite right, a car ploughed into a Paris restaurant on Monday killing a girl and injuring 13 others however at present it is not thought to be a terrorist incident, the driver being suicidal and on drugs at the time.

"France’s Interior Ministry has said the driver, who is around 30 years old, was apparently suicidal and the incident is not believed to be linked to terrorism." - Metro

So yes lets wait for more info.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:47 pm

2 dead according to the press headline

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:48 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:No different to the bile that gets spread on here about trump.

You mean the same Trump who won't denounce the KKK?

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:48 pm

This is escalating

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:48 pm

Wow, only 15 posts before the KKK is mentioned - is that a new record, somebody consult Norris McWhirter.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:49 pm

Spijed wrote:You mean the same Trump who won't denounce the KKK?

Again keep it to the topic. I'm not discussing that on here.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:50 pm

Armed men enter a restaurant now.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:50 pm

Spijed wrote:You mean the same Trump who won't denounce the KKK?

I thought he did denounce the Nazis if that's what you mean?

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:59 pm

Usual wannabe celebrity look a me brigade out in full force on twitter already. Like they live for these terrorist attacks.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:01 pm

In a white van eh...probably another Tory/Ukip muppet gone more bonkers then they already are

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:01 pm

Damo wrote:I thought he did denounce the Nazis if that's what you mean?

The Economist, tomorrow. will make a different argument:

"Our cover considers the presidency of Donald Trump. This week he failed the simplest of tests: finding a way to condemn Nazis. His attempt to equate the far-right protest and its counter-demonstration in Charlottesville was politically inept and morally wrong. His inability to see beyond himself suggests that he does not have the character to change."

Zanny Minton Beddoes, Editor-in-Chief

However, suggest we keep this thread to Barcelona.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:02 pm

Holed up in a Turkish restaurant, with hostages.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:02 pm

Just seen an horrendous video on Twitter of this incident...heartbreaking...murdering bastards.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:04 pm

Paul Waine wrote:The Economist, tomorrow. will make a different argument:

"Our cover considers the presidency of Donald Trump. This week he failed the simplest of tests: finding a way to condemn Nazis. His attempt to equate the far-right protest and its counter-demonstration in Charlottesville was politically inept and morally wrong. His inability to see beyond himself suggests that he does not have the character to change."

Zanny Minton Beddoes, Editor-in-Chief

However, suggest we keep this thread to Barcelona.

Wonder if they will take that same tone next time there is an Islamic inspired attack. Indeed, I wonder...

colne-claret · Post by **colne-claret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:08 pm

Horrible people in this world.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:29 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Shootout underway

There has been no shootout.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:32 pm

Edited.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:34 pm

IndigoLake wrote:Is that a joke you've just made?

Trying to lighten up a thread that had gone way OT

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:36 pm

dpinsussex wrote:Trying to lighten up a thread that had gone way OT

I don't think it's the appropriate place to make jokes to be honest. I agree, some responses are poor but that's not unusual for this forum. I'd suggest reporting any posts you find to be in poor taste.

I live in Barcelona. I have friends who were around the centre of the city. My wife was due to be coming into the centre around that time. Thankfully she's okay. I'd just ask that people show respect considering a lot of people have been injured and some have unfortunately lost their lives.

Also, I'd ask that people refrain from reporting rumour as fact. We had that problem on the Manchester terrorist attack thread as well.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:38 pm

I think my commemt is the least of the problems on this thread.

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:41 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:Again keep it to the topic. I'm not discussing that on here.

You're the one who mentioned Trump.

1963Claret · Post by **1963Claret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:43 pm

Walton wrote:The usual suspects straight into this thread, gagging to spew their bile.

As opposed to the usual suspects on the world terrorism stage spreading their hatred and murder?

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:45 pm

Reuters reporting that at least 13 have died. Horrible.

Edit - This is still not confirmed. Police only confirming 1 dead and 32 injured. Obviously that's quite conflicting information.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:23 pm

Greenmile wrote:You're the one who mentioned Trump.

Correct, for the purposes of adding a bit of balance to what I thought was a needless double standard comment. I thought you'd have been able to see that but then again...

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:24 pm

IndigoLake wrote:I don't think it's the appropriate place to make jokes to be honest. I agree, some responses are poor but that's not unusual for this forum. I'd suggest reporting any posts you find to be in poor taste.

I live in Barcelona. I have friends who were around the centre of the city. My wife was due to be coming into the centre around that time. Thankfully she's okay. I'd just ask that people show respect considering a lot of people have been injured and some have unfortunately lost their lives.

Also, I'd ask that people refrain from reporting rumour as fact. We had that problem on the Manchester terrorist attack thread as well.

I hope everyone connected with you is ok.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:32 pm

So tragic tourists mainly being targeted again,

,sadly we are not

about this type of attack now they are becoming so common,hope everybody on this board and your friends/family is safe, particularly the people living over there or on holiday,RIP anyone who has been killed in this attack, and anyone injured hope they make a full recovery,not much else you can add really.

whoever carried out this murder, whatever their ideology.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:39 pm

Awful again. Murder by deranged scumbags. Let's keep an open mind about who they are as they could even be Christian or Catholic extremists for all we know.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:42 pm

Blackrod wrote:Awful again. Murder by deranged scumbags. Let's keep an open mind about who they are as they could even be Christian or Catholic extremists for all we know.

Spain is not immune to domestic terror incidents, (ETA) for instance so anything is possible,don't suppose the victims will care who committed the attack TBH.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:47 pm

Shocking, and yet, sadly not.

Love to all affected.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:50 pm

Could well be ETA. Can't recall them attacking civilians ( and not officials) in Barcelona before though.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:53 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:I hope everyone connected with you is ok.

Thank you, I appreciate that. I'm still contacting people but as far as I know, everyone I know is safe. Just been to the local hospital to donate blood after I saw an appeal. Thankfully, they actually have more than enough blood at that particular hospital so it's not needed at this moment. They've asked people to come back in the coming days since the existing blood they have obviously has an expiration date.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:57 pm

I thought ETA had ceased all hostilities a few years ago?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:58 pm

IndigoLake wrote:Thank you, I appreciate that. I'm still contacting people but as far as I know, everyone I know is safe. Just been to the local hospital to donate blood after I saw an appeal. Thankfully, they actually have more than enough blood at that particular hospital so it's not needed at this moment. They've asked people to come back in the coming days since the existing blood they have obviously has an expiration date.

At least you know all your loved ones are safe Indigo,and you can offer some assistance however small,it is after acts like this that sport pales into insignificance.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:02 pm

tiger76 wrote:At least you know all your loved ones are safe Indigo,and you can offer some assistance however small,it is after acts like this that sport pales into insignificance.

Absolutely, safety first. My wife is staying outside of Barcelona tonight. She would have taken a train into the centre to come home but she'll stay with a friend since transport is down. Even if it's running in some hours I think it's best she waits until tomorrow morning to be on the safe side. It is an ongoing incident after all. Was uplifting to see plenty of people making the effort to give blood - good will always win through in the end.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:14 pm

Catalan police confirm they have arrested one man. Nobody is holed up in a bar with hostages as has been reported in some cases.

Catalan government confirm 13 dead and at least 50 injured.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:32 pm

*****

Garnerssoap · Post by **Garnerssoap** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:37 pm

Pretty grim stuff.

Slightly o/t but had a row with my missus about holidays this year. Ordinarily would go to south of France/Spain. She dug her heels in as worried about crowds /airports etc.

Guesswho won - st Ives was lovely

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:37 pm

Just had to call the wife's mum and dad to check they are ok. Fortunately they'd just left Barcelona at lunch time after boarding a train for Blanes at placa de catalunya. The wife and I were there two weeks ago.
Indigo, hope you and yours remain safe.