10mill bid for Worrall

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:29 pm

Don't have twitter - is it that they are not happy with his performance or the teams ?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:33 pm

The Forest fans are actually praising his performance tonight.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:36 pm

as is the local paper

http://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/foo ... ne-1142250" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:41 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:Don't have twitter - is it that they are not happy with his performance or the teams ?

Sorry the teams. Sounds like Worrall was one of the few to come out with any credit.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:12 pm

thelaughingclaret wrote:If someone doesn’t have the amibition to play in the premier league and would rather languish in the championship, then are they worth the time of day? We want ambitious and committed players.

Doesn't follow. If he genuinely doesn't want a challenge and fancies an easy life with forest, then obviously we don't want him; if he sees his career as progressing better in Forest's first team than in Burnley's reserves, then it's a different matter.

We signed Ben Mee and Kieran Trippier while we were in the Championship; they both chose to languish in the Championship rather than play in the Premier League. How did that work out?

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:22 pm

Isn’t the choice more between languishing in the Premier League or playing in the Championship? He isn’t going to displace Mee or Tarko anytime soon.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:39 am

True but Tarks didn't replace Keane at first,he waited patiently for his chance and made the shirt his own.Don't see a queue of suitors for Worrall's services which may force Forest's hand and give us leverage,perhaps we could tempt them with loanees. Ulvstead seems to be surplus to requirements
and needs to get some decent game time.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:10 am

I can't see Forest wanting Freddie.

MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:31 am

Nixon syas we'll be in with a fresh bid today.

Say's we will lump more upfront.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:42 am

scouseclaret wrote:Isn’t the choice more between languishing in the Premier League or playing in the Championship? He isn’t going to displace Mee or Tarko anytime soon.

Really?
Tarkowski doubtful for tonight, hypothetically Mee picks up a straight red and a 3 game ban tonight, and he's pretty much guaranteed a game on Saturday, and could play alongside Long!

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:48 am

nil_desperandum wrote:and could play alongside Long!

That's hardly going to tempt him to come!

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:50 am

Been rejected according to mirror . 6 mill up front rest in add ons

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:57 am

Reecey1987 wrote:Been rejected according to mirror . 6 mill up front rest in add ons

That was yesterday.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:58 am

Its today

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:59 am

Steddyman wrote:That was yesterday.

It says today

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:02 am

Reecey1987 wrote:It says today

Its still the same info as yesterday - I think its a reporter for a red top who doesn't understand how a calendar works...

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:10 am

Reecey1987 wrote:It says today

That will have been written last night, for sure

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:27 am

Anyway, back to Worrall

Hope this goes through, as it would be silly not to add to our squad in a position that we are short in.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:29 am

Spot on Lancs...the thought of any two from Long Mee and Anderson for any length of time is frightening

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:31 am

Chester Perry wrote:as is the local paper

http://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/foo ... ne-1142250" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Darikwa and Fox in the same back four. Wow.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:33 am

Fat Al is right.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:35 am

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:42 am

randomclaret2 wrote:Spot on Lancs...the thought of any two from Long Mee and Anderson for any length of time is frightening

Not sure why you have included Mee as if he wasn't good enough. Mee is an outstanding defender.

I'm certainly not expecting Worrall to be signing but I don't think Anderson is going to be part of our first team squad either.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:45 am

ClaretTony wrote:Not sure why you have included Mee as if he wasn't good enough. Mee is an outstanding defender.
.

Presumably because Mee could easily pick up an injury or suspension. So that then leaves only the other two.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:13 am

nil_desperandum wrote:Presumably because Mee could easily pick up an injury or suspension. So that then leaves only the other two.

It won't leave the other two because Anderson isn't likely to be included

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:18 am

So who comes in at centre back then, if Mee was to be out and Anderson not included?

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:22 am

Charlie Taylor

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:23 am

Who comes in for Taylor?

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:24 am

Stephen Ward

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:25 am

Stephen Jordan

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:26 am

Stephen, who sits in Row 9 in the Bob Lord and smokes 40 a day

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:26 am

The man who's not kicked a ball for 6 weeks comes in after being "back on the grass" for 1 training session?

I know we love the guy, but even he can't preform miracles...

BertiesBeehole · Post by **BertiesBeehole** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:26 am

Stephen Taylor

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:28 am

Ward is back in full training isn't he?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:29 am

I think the ones hard of sight mean, keep everything crossed and hope for some luck by leaving things to chance, whilst being unprepared.

I think the ones who can see, maybe wanting to opt for a belt and braces approach, leaving nothing to chance and being prepared.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:29 am

Tall Paul wrote:Ward is back in full training isn't he?

Has done a couple of hours yes..

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:34 am

jlup1980 wrote:Darikwa and Fox in the same back four. Wow.

Danny Fox - Another player who left us looking for bigger, better things, only to disappear into oblivion. 31, should be around / just past his prime for a defender! I don’t miss him...

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:35 am

It is perfectly possible to believe that the manager and board are doing a remarkable job, whilst also believing it is a ludicrous decision not to sign a centre-half.

He’s done ok, but Long as 3rd choice centre-half for one of the most profitable football clubs in the world (not hyperbole, stone cold fact) is not acceptable. I have no words to describe my thoughts on Taylor as 4th choice.

I like them both, but we have the money and the standing to do significantly better.

In our first Prem season when we failed to sign a centre-mid in January I predicted one of Jones or Marney would pick up a knock. I’m going to make a similar call now ....... if we don’t sign a centre-half today one of Mee or Long will get injured tonight.

jtv · Post by **jtv** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:40 am

Socrates wrote:In our first Prem season when we failed to sign a centre-mid in January I predicted one of Jones or Marney would pick up a knock. I’m going to make a similar call now ....... if we don’t sign a centre-half today one of Mee or Long will get injured tonight.

And you are dying to be proved right it seems.

billyhamilton82 · Post by **billyhamilton82** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:42 am

Socrates wrote:It is perfectly possible to believe that the manager and board are doing a remarkable job, whilst also believing it is a ludicrous decision not to sign a centre-half.

He’s done ok, but Long as 3rd choice centre-half for one of the most profitable football clubs in the world (not hyperbole, stone cold fact) is not acceptable. I have no words to describe my thoughts on Taylor as 4th choice.

I like them both, but we have the money and the standing to do significantly better.

In our first Prem season when we failed to sign a centre-mid in January I predicted one of Jones or Marney would pick up a knock. I’m going to make a similar call now ....... if we don’t sign a centre-half today one of Mee or Long will get injured tonight.

Try and stay philosophical Socrates

cblantfanclub · Post by **cblantfanclub** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:46 am

Post 138 -They might they might not but to imply you are making some sort of clever call is frankly ridiculous. Let's hope you don't get lucky this time.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:48 am

And you are dying to be proved right it seems.

This sort of post really irks me.

We shouldn't have three centre halves in our squad with our resources.

We need a 4th one today or its just taking risks we do not need to take.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:48 am

I'm thinking of bring my boots with me tonight. By the sound of things I've got even chance of a game...

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:50 am

jtv wrote:And you are dying to be proved right it seems.

Based on what?

Or is that just ******** conjecture from a myopic dullard who finds it impossible to see two sides of any point?

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:52 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:This sort of post really irks me.

We shouldn't have three centre halves in our squad with our resources.

We need a 4th one today or its just taking risks we do not need to take.

Exactly.

I love the way our club is run. I admire the stance we have taken on transfer fees generally. But we are still operating as if we were on Championship revenues.

We are the absolute definition of making a necessity out of a virtue. I don’t care who is at fault - Dyche or the board. They have both performed admirably, but this seems to be a sizeable blind spot for them.

jtv · Post by **jtv** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:53 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:This sort of post really irks me.

We shouldn't have three centre halves in our squad with our resources.

We need a 4th one today or its just taking risks we do not need to take.

Why does it irk you? Do you think that Sean and/or the Board are not aware that having just 3 centre halves is not ideal? But I would think that genuine fans would hope that Mee and Long do NOT get injured rather than the other way round just to prove how clever they are.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:56 am

cblantfanclub wrote:Post 138 -They might they might not but to imply you are making some sort of clever call is frankly ridiculous. Let's hope you don't get lucky this time.

Whilst there is an element of luck, there is also an element of logic and probability to it also.

Centre-halves play in a position where they are more at risk of yellow or red cards.

Centre-halves play in a physically demanding position.

The way we defend, deep and throwing bodies about heightens that physical element.

Ben Mee’s defending style is incredibly brave. That heightens the risk.

If you leave yourself with absolutely zero room for manoeuvre because you carry insufficient numbers a three or four game period of absence becomes a much bigger deal.

And to reiterate the point again ...... we are one of the most profitable clubs on the planet.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:57 am

jtv wrote:Why does it irk you? Do you think that Sean and/or the Board are not aware that having just 3 centre halves is not ideal? But I would think that genuine fans would hope that Mee and Long do NOT get injured rather than the other way round just to prove how clever they are.

Where did I say I hope they get injured?

jtv · Post by **jtv** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:00 pm

Socrates wrote:Based on what?

Or is that just ******** conjecture from a myopic dullard who finds it impossible to see two sides of any point?

Based on the way you wrote it. And thanks for descending so low as to call me a myopic dullard - it really does you credit.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:02 pm

jtv wrote:Based on the way you wrote it. And thanks for descending so low as to call me a myopic dullard - it really does you credit.

So conjecture then.

Where did I say I hope they get injured? And where did I call you a myopic dullard?