More post brexit referendum good news!!!!

[nil_desperandum]

If the non voters were that bothered they would've voted..

But the undecided couldn't as there wasn't a "genuinely don't know" or "don't feel sufficiently informed" or "need more convincing" option to tick on the ballot paper.
I know quite a few people who quite simply didn't feel sufficiently informed or qualified to vote.
If you were undecided then you either had to make a "dishonest" decision by voting on a whim on the day, or just not vote.
(The best option would be to write on the ballot paper "don't know!, but how many people are going to actually go to the trouble to turn out to spoil their paper)

[Sidney1st]

The majority of those who voted do though.

If that's what he's basing it on he's right and it can't be argued with.

[UpTheBeehole]

The majority of those who voted do though.

If that's what he's basing it on he's right and it can't be argued with.

He's not, he's saying the majority of Burnleyites. He's talking about walking down the street, about turning round in his seat at the Turf.

He hasn't said 'the majority of Burnleyites who voted'.

[RingoMcCartney]

Ringo please could you let me know your answers to the above?

Which numbers are greater?

No problem. I'm rational and have common sense

28,854 is less than 42,972

28,854 is less than 32,229

44.76 is than 66.66

Now try and prove you can be rational and balanced

Please supply the figures and their relative percentages when you add those that didn't vote to those that voted Remain.

Shouldn't take you too long and I think you may be pleasantly surprised. 

Pauline says you can get the pens out if you run out of toes....


Tick tock ......... tick tock..........tick tock...

[Sidney1st]

He's not, he's saying the majority of Burnleyites. He's talking about walking down the street, about turning round in his seat at the Turf.

He hasn't said 'the majority of Burnleyites who voted'.

When the election winners are declared do they say the majority of the people or of the people who voted?

You're nitpicking over the wording when it's quite possible he's meant the majority of people who've voted.
Does he need to be specific to the smallest detail just for you?
Are you that anal about stuff?

You'd best write off to the government and ask them to be more specific during elections as well.

[randomclaret2]

My comments were aimed at you UTB.As I suspect you know, yes ?

[UpTheBeehole]

Please supply the figures and their relative percentages when you add those that didn't vote to those that voted Remain.

Didn't vote: 21142 (32.8% of electorate)
Voted Remain: 14,462 (22.4% of electorate)

21,142 + 14,462 = 35,604 (55% of electorate)

So 55% of Burnleyites would not agree with you Ringo.

[RingoMcCartney]

He's not, he's saying the majority of Burnleyites. He's talking about walking down the street, about turning round in his seat at the Turf.

He hasn't said 'the majority of Burnleyites who voted'.

Fake post alert!

I originally used the Turf as a random place but seeing as This is a footy based forum I thought I'd be appropriate. Then nil desperandum, NOT ME, went on some bizarre deflection technique of babbling on about who sat next to, where they came from, the fact they didn't talk politics and who groups turn round to while sitting. He even thru how long hed had a ST!

So I said ok, forget the Turf. A random street in Burnley then if that helps to avoid the bizarre, squirming, rabbit hole deflection.

So stop the lies and get back to providing the balanced figures uphisownhole.

[UpTheBeehole]

My comments were aimed at you UTB.As I suspect you know, yes ?

I trust you've read my subsequent posts, such as

randomclaret2 was saying that you can't possibly include the abstainers either way, yet this is EXACTLY what Ringo is doing by saying the majority of Burnleyites agree with him.

They don't

[quoonbeatz]

******* hell sidney, i thought you were better than this.

You dont add the dont knows or dont votes to your preferred answer or candidate. And you have the cheek and arrogance to call people thick

this is spot on, lets just hope ringo reads and understands it.

[RingoMcCartney]

Didn't vote: 21142 (32.8% of electorate)
Voted Remain: 14,462 (22.4% of electorate)

21,142 + 14,462 = 35,604 (55% of electorate)

So 55% of Burnleyites would not agree with you Ringo.

Now you know that's NOT what I asked for.

Add the Leave vote to those who didn't. Show the percentages. Then post.

Youre in real danger of , when it comes to idiots, being seen as a "Kipling"

EXCEEDINGLY STUPID

[martin_p]

When the election winners are declared do they say the majority of the people or of the people who voted?

You're nitpicking over the wording when it's quite possible he's meant the majority of people who've voted.
Does he need to be specific to the smallest detail just for you?
Are you that anal about stuff?

You'd best write off to the government and ask them to be more specific during elections as well.

They don't use the word majority at all, to win a seat in the commons you just need the most votes, you don't need to have more than 50% of the votes never mind of the electorate.

[UpTheBeehole]

Fake post alert!

I originally used the Turf as a random place but seeing as This is a footy based forum I thought I'd be appropriate. Then nil desperandum, NOT ME, went on some bizarre deflection technique of babbling on about who sat next to, where they came from, the fact they didn't talk politics and who groups turn round to while sitting. He even thru how long hed had a ST!

So I said ok, forget the Turf. A random street in Burnley then if that helps to avoid the bizarre, squirming, rabbit hole deflection.

So stop the lies and get back to providing the balanced figures uphisownhole.

In literally your own words

Let me make it as straight forward as possible. Given the way that Burnley voted. Would the majority of Burnleyites agree with my view or yours?

surely if you walked down a random street in Burnley. Given that 66% (I think) of Burnleyites voted to Leave. Then 2 out of every 3 would agree with me? Or are you going to try and use statistics to try and go against common sense?

[Sidney1st]

******* hell sidney, i thought you were better than this.

Better than what?

If Ringo is saying the majority of voters agree with him, he's right.
If he's saying the majority of people in Burnley agree with him he's wrong, which he's said.

However we all know if the result was the other way round remain camp would be saying the majority of the people voted remain and they would include non voters by not being specific.

It's a stupid argument because it's Ringo that's said something and he's being hounded for it.
UTBH then makes a personal dig at him.
The rest of you are getting stuck on it too.

The majority voted out, of those who voted, that is all that matters really.

When other voting results are declared they don't usually say it's due to those who voted do they?
They just say a majority and leave it at that....

[RingoMcCartney]

******* hell sidney, i thought you were better than this.



this is spot on, lets just hope ringo reads and understands it.

Oh I Did! Believe me. And as confirmed it was NOT aimed at me. Understanding - your Achilles Heel.

[UpTheBeehole]

Now you know that's NOT what I asked for.

Add the Leave vote to those who didn't. Show the percentages. Then post.

Youre in real danger of , when it comes to idiots, being seen as a "Kipling"

EXCEEDINGLY STUPID

I QUOTED YOUR OWN POST and provided exactly what you asked for.

You said

Please supply the figures and their relative percentages when you add those that didn't vote to those that voted Remain.

So I supplied the figures and relative percentages when you add those that didn't vote to those that voted Remain.

[martin_p]

Now you know that's NOT what I asked for.

Add the Leave vote to those who didn't. Show the percentages. Then post.

Youre in real danger of , when it comes to idiots, being seen as a "Kipling"

EXCEEDINGLY STUPID

So it's approx:

45% Leave
22% reamian
33% don't know

45% doesn't make a majority of Burnleyites!

Oh hang on, I forgot, you don't think that people who didn't vote aren't Burnleyites.

[UpTheBeehole]

Jesus Christ you're f*cking thick Ringo

[quoonbeatz]

Oh I Did! Believe me. And as confirmed it was NOT aimed at me. Understanding - your Achilles Heel.

i didn't say it was aimed at you, i just said i hoped you read and understand it.

understanding - your achilles heel.

[RingoMcCartney]

In literally your own words

Add the Leave vote to those who didn't vote then provide the figures.

LOSER.

[Tall Paul]

Bloody hell, UTB, he obviously meant the exact opposite of what he actually said. How can you be so stupid not to know that?

[RingoMcCartney]

i didn't say it was aimed at you, i just said i hoped you read and understand it.

understanding - your achilles heel.

Where did i say that you'd said it was aimed at me!? I didnt.I

I simply confirmed that I'd read It, understood it and that it wasn't aimed at me

And you are increasingly desperate!

[UpTheBeehole]

Add the Leave vote to those who didn't vote then provide the figures.

LOSER.

May I refer you to this post by your mate:

You dont add the dont knows or dont votes to your preferred answer or candidate.

[quoonbeatz]

If Ringo is saying the majority of voters agree with him, he's right.
If he's saying the majority of people in Burnley agree with him he's wrong.

correct. and that's simply all that this daft argument was about.

haven't seen him admit it though, he's still banging on about it. unless of course he's now claiming he was saying something different to what he was saying.

its good sport though.

[RingoMcCartney]

Bloody hell, UTB, he obviously meant the exact opposite of what he actually said. How can you be so stupid not to know that?

Head of forensics is here!

Also does a bit of work at the Ministry of No Common Sense.

[Sidney1st]

its good sport though.

Yeah it's amusing watching people ride this to death on both sides.

[martin_p]

correct. and that's simply all that this daft argument was about.

haven't seen him admit it though, he's still banging on about it. unless of course he's now claiming he was saying something different to what he was saying.

its good sport though.

It won't be long before he claims it's just his opinion and he doesn't have to have any evidence.

[UpTheBeehole]

Ringo:


Everybody else:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGex0kLgNok

[RingoMcCartney]

May I refer you to this post by your mate:

You provided one side of the equation. Just asked for balance.

You failed.


You've lost......

[Lancasterclaret]

Billion pound trade deal secured with China!!

It is good news, but I've already posted figures from our own govt that suggest that 0.1%-0.2% trade increase with China won't come close to what we lose with the EU.

[martin_p]

Bloody hell, UTB, he obviously meant the exact opposite of what he actually said. How can you be so stupid not to know that?

Is there any Ringo translation software I can use that tells me what he means rather than watch he actually said (which usually bears no relevance to what he said)?

[RingoMcCartney]

It won't be long before he claims it's just his opinion and he doesn't have to have any evidence.

2 nil Marty.

Hoping i get my hat trick with you!?

[martin_p]

You provided one side of the equation. Just asked for balance.

You failed.


You've lost......

I've given you the figures Ringo, there is no majority.

[quoonbeatz]

Yeah it's amusing watching people ride this to death on both sides.

only north korea and big donny going loco with the nukes can end this thread.

[Sidney1st]

only north korea and big donny going loco with the nukes can end this thread.

Anyway we can hurry that along?

[RingoMcCartney]

I've given you the figures Ringo, there is no majority.

Place the fishing rod on the floor Marty. Get in the Delorean and see if you can retrieve the evidence from the future.

[martin_p]

only north korea and big donny going loco with the nukes can end this thread.

As long as Ringo is clutching his blue passport to his chest when the nukes arrive, he'll be happy.

[martin_p]

Place the fishing rod on the floor Marty. Get in the Delorean and see if you can retrieve the evidence from the future.

So you ask a question, get an answer and still can't face facts. It's becoming a typical Brexit response (see the leaked reports on the economy this week).

[UpTheBeehole]

I'd take death by nuclear bomb if it also took out Ringo.

[RingoMcCartney]

It is good news, but I've already posted figures from our own govt that suggest that 0.1%-0.2% trade increase with China won't come close to what we lose with the EU.

As you say good news Lancs. But all the other deals to be concluded will also contribute.

[RingoMcCartney]

So you ask a question, get an answer and still can't face facts. It's becoming a typical Brexit response (see the leaked reports on the economy this week).

Rod down.

Delorean fired up.

See ya when you get back.

[martin_p]

Rod down.

Delorean fired up.

See ya when you get back.

No answers then Ringo? or is it not the answer you wanted?

[RocketLawnChair]

I was brought up along the lines of don’t vote then don’t complain (obviously there are non political reasons some didn’t vote I’ll health etc but not 21000)

Now I know the country is more liberal than it’s ever been and that’s a very good thing in some areas but not so in others. The argument here seems to be 21000 people didn’t vote but their opinion on this vote imatters !! Now that is bloody liberal.

And nils suggestion of a ‘don’t know’ on the ballot paper is a cracker

“You off out dear”
“Yes off down to the polling station Love”
“Ok, I’m not going to bother dear, who are you voting for dear?”
“Don’t know Love”

[martin_p]

Now I know the country is more liberal than it’s ever been and that’s a very good thing in some areas but not so in others. The argument here seems to be 21000 people didn’t vote but their opinion on this vote imatters !! Now that is bloody liberal.

It really isn't. The argument is that Ringo said that the majority of Burnleyites agree with him on Brexit and there's no evidence to say that's true. More wll agree than disagree, as I and several others have said, but Ringo never makes mistakes, he just says things and we're supposed to work out what he really meant.

[RingoMcCartney]

It really isn't. The argument is that Ringo said that the majority of Burnleyites agree with him on Brexit and there's no evidence to say that's true. More wll agree than disagree, as I and several others have said, but Ringo never makes mistakes, he just says things and we're supposed to work out what he really meant.

Rocketlawnchsir hits the nail bang on the head and Martin gets his pilots licence out and flys in the face of reality.

It really really IS about around 10 Remoaners clinging on to the idea that they can claim the non voters in Burnley as disagreeing with me!

My my. We've had a good few fair minded, level headed folk with common sense contributing this morning, haven't we. Bet you're feeling like a real outsider now aren't you my reality-lacking and dyscalculia suffering chum!?

[martin_p]

It really really IS about around 10 Remoaners clinging on to the idea that they can claim the non voters in Burnley as disagreeing with me!

Reading and comprehension is clearly as challenging for you as maths. I’m not saying they disagree with you (point out where I have), but neither do they agree with you (as you’ve admitted). So, guess what, the statement the majority of Burnleyites agree with you is false. So is the statement the majority of Burnleyites disagree with you. There is no majority amongst Burnleyites (I.e. all those eligible to vote) for a single view. As I’ve said, your statement only hold true if you don’t consider those who vote as Burnleyites.

[RingoMcCartney]

There is no majority amongst Burnleyites (I.e. all those eligible to vote) for a single view.

Eligible to vote 65000 roughly

Remain 140000 roughly

Leave 28000 roughly.


"There is no majority amongst Burnleyites for a single view!"



What planet Marty!? What planet!?

Just like the majority of Burnleyites agreeing with me on the EU. I reckon the majority would agree when I say , you're losing It!

[UpTheBeehole]

Jesus wept

[martin_p]

Eligible to vote 65000 roughly

Remain 140000 roughly

Leave 28000 roughly.


"There is no majority amongst Burnleyites for a single view!"



What planet Marty!? What planet!?

Just like the majority of Burnleyites agreeing with me on the EU. I reckon the majority would agree when I say , you're losing It!

The planet (earth) where the word majority is defined as over 50%. 28000 is less than half of 65000. This would have been easier if you’d looked up the definition of the word majority when I suggested.