Men Only Events. Are They OK?

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:44 pm

conyoviejo wrote:I can remember watching Wandering Walter and two strippers at the centre spot many years ago..those strippers didn't half perform well... Lol ..No strings barred in them days.

Blimey, that brings back memories. Didn't he dress in explorer gear including a pith helmet
and performed as a one man band with bass drum, cymbal et al whilst telling jokes ?

A very good comedian, and "his girls" were something else. (so I'm told

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basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:07 pm

Flashing the penis is a traditional Yorkshire greeting.
Nah then.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:47 pm

And if they (the hostesses) were so shocked, then why did they sign up?

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:50 pm

The manhaters are having their day, that's for sure. Pretty sure they'll be organizing hunting parties for heterosexual men soon.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:51 pm

It all ties in to the LGTBQ agenda.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:11 am

Clarets4me wrote:Great Ormond Street Hospital for sick children, are one of those who have said they are returning over £500,000 of previous donations. They've been funded for decades by royalties from the estate of JM Barrie, the author of " Peter Pan ", who's now strongly suspected of having been a paedophile, according to various biographers and academics...

Whither now ??

Whither now? Well, as the Daily Mail pointed out in one of its viler muckraking allegations, Barrie did adopt a small boy after his parents died, which has to make him a figure of suspicion. To some people's eyes, especially if they want to sell papers and don't care how, all adoptive parents who are dead and can't defend themselves are fair game for this sort of thing. Especially as the boy later drowned with his homosexual lover.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:32 am

dsr wrote:Whither now? Well, as the Daily Mail pointed out in one of its viler muckraking allegations, Barrie did adopt a small boy after his parents died, which has to make him a figure of suspicion. To some people's eyes, especially if they want to sell papers and don't care how, all adoptive parents who are dead and can't defend themselves are fair game for this sort of thing. Especially as the boy later drowned with his homosexual lover.

I wouldn't have thought adoptive parents need worry about that.

Unless of course they adopted a small boy circa in the 18th Century who turned out to be gay.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:58 am

Reading this it is hard to tell which responses are real and which are parodies.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:15 am

Unfortunately they are all real, and they're all posted by sad lonely old men who are struggling that the world is changing for the better, and they aren't,

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:19 am

Guich wrote:I wouldn't have thought adoptive parents need worry about that.

Unless of course they adopted a small boy circa in the 18th Century who turned out to be gay.

Apart from the detail that he died in 1921, that is the problem. There are people whose default position is to presume that anyone who loves a child is a child molester.

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:28 am

Some proper T Rex and Diplodocus types on here, make no mistake.

Stacky_claret · Post by **Stacky_claret** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:35 am

We're they imprisoned as I don't know why they didn't all go home ?
It wouldn't have been a very good do then

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:02 am

They didn't go home because they were trying to earn a living like the rest of us.

Is that a reasonable choice then Stacky?

a] go to work, sign 5 page disclosure documents, forcing you to keep your mouth shut and be prepared to be groped/touched up/propositioned/harassed and generally abused...their work was completely done by midnight but they were told they had to go to the 'after party' between 12.00 - 2.00pm in a different room.
OR
b] put your coat on and go back home..

Is that the choice you face going to work?

EVERYONE should be able to go to work without fear of being grabbed and touched up and sexually harassed....treated like a piece of meat - is that acceptable?

Assuming the reports of this event are broadly correct - anybody on here want to see their sisters/daughters/mothers/wives treated in this manner when they've gone out to work for the evening, to earn a living?

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:14 am

hampsteadclaret wrote:They didn't go home because they were trying to earn a living like the rest of us.

Is that a reasonable choice then Stacky?

a] go to work, sign 5 page disclosure documents, forcing you to keep your mouth shut and be prepared to be groped/touched up/propositioned/harassed and generally abused...their work was completely done by midnight but they were told they had to go to the 'after party' between 12.00 - 2.00pm in a different room.
OR
b] put your coat on and go back home..

Is that the choice you face going to work?

EVERYONE should be able to go to work without fear of being grabbed and touched up and sexually harassed....treated like a piece of meat - is that acceptable?

Assuming the reports of this event are broadly correct - anybody on here want to see their sisters/daughters/mothers/wives treated in this manner when they've gone out to work for the evening, to earn a living?

Absolutely f* cking spot on. It’s vile and unacceptable behaviour by rich men who are treating young women like a grubby old porn magazine bring passed around a boarding school dormitory.

Stacky_claret · Post by **Stacky_claret** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:25 am

Hampstead
I'm not disagreeing with anything you say or saying that it's ok ?
Most people in the country are trying to earn a living
If it was me or most of the people I know they would have walked out ? Quit ? Left the building ?

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:44 am

hampsteadclaret wrote:EVERYONE should be able to go to work without fear of being grabbed and touched up and sexually harassed....treated like a piece of meat - is that acceptable?

hampstead - I wholeheartedly agree with you on this, however I would like to point out that should you be knowingly employed as someone who's job it is to be as you put it "grabbed and touched up and sexually harassed....treated like a piece of meat" then that is what you should expect. I have a good friend who was a male stripper not too long back and he told me of the many things that he was subjected to by hen parties and all women groups (used that term because of the thread title) - I will not repeat them on this public forum, but these acts of depravity on him were a lot worse than being groped by someone. However, as he said to me, it was par for the course - it was his job and whilst the actions are morally abhorrent, he was well paid for it as were these hostesses. There were of course incidents that he did agree to as well and he did find certain sexual acts acceptable, as I am sure some of these hostesses would have experienced too - but we wont hear about any positives from the media will we...?

The question in this case for me is that of naivety on the part of the hostesses - in that, if they were that naive to believe that this wasn't going to be a risk of the job why did they take the job and take the money for it? IMO this is a media frenzy to have a go at public figures.

Now, with all that said, I think this behaviour by the rich and powerful men at this party is wrong and it is an abuse of power. Whether it should be stopped or not is up for discussion, because whilst there are women who dont want to be subject to sexual abuse at work, there are many who would, and have, put a price on their bodies to allow this to happen - so trying to ban these types of parties wont actually solve anything as sex does sell.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:09 am

Rick_Muller wrote:Now, with all that said, I think this behaviour by the rich and powerful men at this party is wrong and it is an abuse of power. Whether it should be stopped or not is up for discussion, because whilst there are women who dont want to be subject to sexual abuse at work, there are many who would, and have, put a price on their bodies to allow this to happen - so trying to ban these types of parties wont actually solve anything as sex does sell.

One problem with these type of events is that when something starts off with a bit of fun, but then turns into something more sinister will it ever get reported to the police?

Not a chance.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:15 am

I've not been following this too closely, but have any of the girls/women lodged any complaints, either
this time or before ?

OR :- Is this another case of someone being offended on someone else's behalf ?

Just to make it clear, I don't condone the behaviour in any way whatsoever.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:08 pm

I think from what I've read one or two of the girls had done this event before so knew what was coming.

Others weren't aware until they signed up.
They all did the event for whatever reason when it really wasn't the best idea.

Whatever the reasons were, this sort of thing shouldn't be happening.
If they want girls they can leer over and touch up, go and rent some hookers or maybe stop being such a dick...

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:13 pm

Sidney1st wrote:If they want girls they can leer over and touch up, go and rent some hookers or maybe stop being such a dick...

Is prostitution legal Sid...? If it was a genuine "tax paying" profession and not frowned upon, then perhaps your approach could work and the regulations of that profession would protect them against unwanted advances - I'd even go as far to say they would really have the rich power blokes by the balls wouldn't they...?

In the meantime they'll have to keep misleading naive young women to get themselves some cheap thrills and continue to be dicks... because theres no other "legal" alternative. This way they can use power and influence to avoid prosecution for any sex crime they may commit.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:15 pm

ontario claret wrote:Jimmy Saville molested young boys. There's a vast difference between that and being a "hostess" at such an event. I prescribe voluntary castration in order to avoid scandalous headlines in the future.

...and dead bodies!

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:29 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Is prostitution legal Sid...? If it was a genuine "tax paying" profession and not frowned upon, then perhaps your approach could work and the regulations of that profession would protect them against unwanted advances - I'd even go as far to say they would really have the rich power blokes by the balls wouldn't they...?

In the meantime they'll have to keep misleading naive young women to get themselves some cheap thrills and continue to be dicks... because theres no other "legal" alternative. This way they can use power and influence to avoid prosecution for any sex crime they may commit.

May not be legal but there are plenty of them

It isn't legal to sexually harass young women when they're working either

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:28 pm

Prostitution isn't illegal and it is taxable income.

All the things associated with prostitution, including running a brothel, pimping, and kerb crawling, are illegal. But the act itself is not.

(Unless things have changed recently - it's not my specialist subject!)

smudge · Post by **smudge** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:05 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Unfortunately they are all real, and they're all posted by sad lonely old men who are struggling that the world is changing for the better, and they aren't,

I'm a sad and lonely old man but please don't associate me with some of the comments on here.
What's been said about the way these girls were treated and these disgusting men takes some believing.
It's like stepping back in time to a long forgotten age.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:20 pm

Police in Toronto last week arrested a man for a string of disappearances in the gay village. No bodies have been found yet, but blood evidence suggests at least 5 gay men have been murdered. Interestingly, they were all Arabic in descent, and hung out at a gay bar called Zipperz. The sign on the bar reproduces the cover of the Rolling Stones album "Sticky Fingers". The arrested individual also worked as a department store Santa as a seasonal occupation. Would you want your child sitting on HIS lap?

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:37 pm

ontario claret wrote:Police in Toronto last week arrested a man for a string of disappearances in the gay village. No bodies have been found yet, but blood evidence suggests at least 5 gay men have been murdered. Interestingly, they were all Arabic in descent, and hung out at a gay bar called Zipperz. The sign on the bar reproduces the cover of the Rolling Stones album "Sticky Fingers". The arrested individual also worked as a department store Santa as a seasonal occupation. Would you want your child sitting on HIS lap?

I'm sure the non arabic kids would be ok?

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:43 pm

Way this PC mess of a country is going give it 100 years and we will be pampering an assorted bunch of perverts saying its just the way they are everybody is different.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:47 pm

That's all part of the agenda, Bfcboyo.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:54 pm

The rug munchers strike again; everything appertaining to white, heterosexual men is slowly being made anti social. The Presidents club is merely rich tosspots blowing off steam once a year and having a laugh but, IMO, it’s certainly not the fourth horseman of the apocalypse.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:34 pm

Things don't just "happen". There's an agenda out there, and it's all aimed at heterosexual men, and nuclear families.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:13 am

Absolutely. The clever bit is making everyone feel they have to agree with that agenda. It’s a bit like immigration on the run up to the General Election; if you mentioned it you were branded a racist by the militant minority. Personally, I refuse to buy into this metro sexual bollocxs, it’s all cr4p. Men are men and women are different and it should say that way.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:35 am

Looking back at this, I'd love to know what some of the people outraged by the presidents club, now think of Oxfam

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:48 am

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:51 am

Damo wrote:Looking back at this, I'd love to know what some of the people outraged by the presidents club, now think of Oxfam

Excellent bump

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:14 pm

just been a local meeting and the members were outraged of 'men only events'!

a meeting of which group?

...Womens Institute!

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:35 pm

Damo wrote:Looking back at this, I'd love to know what some of the people outraged by the presidents club, now think of Oxfam

Well according to James O'Brien if aid workers are paying vulnerable women for sex then its a good thing as it will lift them out of poverty, i kid you not, he actually said that.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:45 pm

Not what he said, at least not what he said in the desperate context you have created in your mind.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:50 pm

claretandy wrote:Well according to James O'Brien if aid workers are paying vulnerable women for sex then its a good thing as it will lift them out of poverty, i kid you not, he actually said that.

About right for him

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:52 pm

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For anyone who want's a listen.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:00 pm

A spokes person foe oxfam came on talk radio last week.

She was saying that Oxfam was pushing for companies to have wage differentials between the highest and lowest paid of no more than 20 to 1.

The presenter asked whether it was in Oxfams remit to be adopting a left wing political stand point and not be better off feeding starving people.

No she said.

The co presenter then pointed out that Oxfam has executives in the USA bring paid around 500 k dollers per annum. Then asked the Oxfam spokesperson to clarify whether this was no more than 20 times the lowest paid in her "charity"?

She couldn't and said she hasn't come on to talk about what oxfam executives in the USA were being paid!

The conversation came to an awkward and abrupt end.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:07 pm

Thing is, the big charities are now effectively NGO, and with all the stuff that brings.

I don't think they should be as well paid as that, but to run an organisation the size of these charities efficiently and with the best value for money, then you need people who know what they are doing.

biggles · Post by **biggles** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:44 pm

anyone object to birds having hen parties/male strippers? some of them can get 'out of hand'.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:44 pm

Jo Cox's husband has had to step down from his role at the charity set up in his wife's memory now.

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Seems everyone's at it these days

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:53 am

Saint Brendan of Cox's halo finally slips ......

titsoutforthelads · Post by **titsoutforthelads** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:10 am

Coming back to the original thread I dont ser a problem if the girls were happy earning the money.Whats wrong in dressing sexily and getting well paid for it.

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:31 am

claretandy wrote:Saint Brendan of Cox's halo finally slips ......

You’ve really got a boner for the guy whose wife was murdered by a right wing racist nutter

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:44 am

Loyalclaret wrote:You’ve really got a boner for the guy whose wife was murdered by a right wing racist nutter

I just love it when lefty, virtue signallers finally get there comeuppance, He was director for "womens empowerment" at save the children, you couldn't make this stuff up FFS.

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:54 am

Am I right in thinking some on here are suggesting that being disgusted with rich, powerful white men groping young girls is now an attack by the LGBT/lefties/whoever on white nuclear families?

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:03 am

I don’t oxfam will be the only charity to have thing like this come up

I am already anticipating CAFOD

titsoutforthelads · Post by **titsoutforthelads** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:03 am

What is a white nuclear family ?