Cheltenham trends

happyclaret17 · Post by **happyclaret17** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:40 pm

http://www.gaultstats.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

the link above gives some useful pointers for cheltenham....you can read for free a bit like wiki but personally if he puts me onto a good winner I donate through the link....much of the stuff in their is pretty much unique to him....utc.

Barrowfordclaret · Post by **Barrowfordclaret** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:59 pm

Thanks just added the site to my bookmarks

happyclaret17 · Post by **happyclaret17** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:36 am

some handy pointers in there barrowford....he usually does a grand national one as well which is very handy....utc.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:07 am

Good read Happy, cheers for posting.

Flyingboltclaret · Post by **Flyingboltclaret** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:11 am

happyclaret17 wrote:http://www.gaultstats.com/

the link above gives some useful pointers for cheltenham....you can read for free a bit like wiki but personally if he puts me onto a good winner I donate through the link....much of the stuff in their is pretty much unique to him....utc.

Well worth a read thanks for that Happy and welcome back to the world of racing on uptheclarets.

He has some interesting views and quotes on sites stats etc ..

"A Racing Post article asked five top breeders for their favourite new sires. Overwhelming support for Getaway and Ask. Getabird, Verdana Blue.
Ruby Walsh RTE Dublin Festival weekend made the point that we tend to make too much of the sire of the winner and should concentrate more on he breeding on the dam's side as that's where the stamina tends to comes from. Not enough time, maybe for another year."

Glad so see the experts don't think Getaway is a bad sire , and that the dam is equally if not more important than the sire, as do many including one of the greatest horse breeders of all time Frederico Tesio called ....the only genius ever to operate in the breeding world", and the breeder of Nearco and Ribot

So let's not make sweeping generalisations about sires and there influence, just to back up a view of a particular horse on a particular day ... because 99% of the time it's not relevant .. especially if your ignoring the dam

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:32 am

Flyingboltclaret wrote: So let's not make sweeping generalisations about sires and there influence, just to back up a view of a particular horse on a particular day ... because 99% of the time it's not relevant .. especially if your ignoring the dam

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:40 am

Flyingbolt

Seriously will you just f-uck off and leave these threads alone.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:43 am

Popcorn time

FB gets a whole host of cronies tearing apart his threads when he has a bad day.

FB comments on a thread stating the same thing as the OP link and people don't like it.

Any chance you could go for the equal stakes challenge with FB with your tips Happy?

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:49 am

bfccrazy wrote:Popcorn time

FB gets a whole host of cronies tearing apart his threads when he has a bad day.

FB comments on a thread stating the same thing as the OP link and people don't like it.

Any chance you could go for the equal stakes challenge with FB with your tips Happy?

Fully agreed. When ty puts the race sweeps up,some with great knowledge of horse racing don't put their reputations on the line.

Flyingboltclaret · Post by **Flyingboltclaret** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:13 am

TVC15 wrote:Flyingbolt

Seriously will you just f-uck off and leave these threads alone.

Thanking Happy for posting a link to a worthwhile read . And highlighting an important view on sire stats within the link .. just because it's a different view to the opening poster and happens to be my view also . You go off on one

If someone had posted saying Sean Dyche was worst manager in the premiership but the stats didn't back it up,. I'm pretty sure there would be a debate about it .. rather then your childish outburst

Suggest you look at some of the comments on my racing threads .. not particularly nice .. or interesting and from the usual suspects .. but I don't go off on one like you .

I continue to post my views .. and record my p/l .. do you object to that too ?

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:13 am

bfccrazy wrote:FB comments on a thread stating the same thing as the OP link and people don't like it.

not arsed about what the link or FB is saying, just making the point that he's the one who started the squabbling on these threads and his post above is doing exactly the same again even after its been pointed out to him plenty of times before.

its tedious AF.

genuinely no idea why he can't just post his selections without commenting on anyone else's. there wouldn't have been any of this petty ******** flying about if he'd just done that.

Flyingboltclaret · Post by **Flyingboltclaret** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:22 am

quoonbeatz wrote:not arsed about what the link or FB is saying, just making the point that he's the one who started the squabbling on these threads and his post above is doing exactly the same again even after its been pointed out to him plenty of times before.

its tedious AF.

genuinely no idea why he can't just post his selections without commenting on anyone else's. there wouldn't have been any of this petty ******** flying about if he'd just done that.

Just pointing out a different view to sire stats .. Not squabbling... I do post my selections and record my p/l ..and have done consistently over the last weeks ... why don't you critisice the many who try to disrupt them with abuse and inaccurate information ?

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:42 am

quoonbeatz wrote:not arsed about what the link or FB is saying, just making the point that he's the one who started the squabbling on these threads and his post above is doing exactly the same again even after its been pointed out to him plenty of times before.

its tedious AF.

genuinely no idea why he can't just post his selections without commenting on anyone else's. there wouldn't have been any of this petty ******** flying about if he'd just done that.

Because if you don't want any opposition to your views - don't post them on a public forum where they can be challenged

It's quite simple really.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:48 am

I haven't seen any squabbling from FB if anything it's the "opposition " for the record like it or not I'm following Gordon Elliot at Cheltenham and jockey jack Kennedy .any decent priced Mullins runners I will back as well.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:08 pm

Flyingboltclaret wrote:Thanking Happy for posting a link to a worthwhile read . And highlighting an important view on sire stats within the link .. just because it's a different view to the opening poster and happens to be my view also . You go off on one

If someone had posted saying Sean Dyche was worst manager in the premiership but the stats didn't back it up,. I'm pretty sure there would be a debate about it .. rather then your childish outburst

Suggest you look at some of the comments on my racing threads .. not particularly nice .. or interesting and from the usual suspects .. but I don't go off on one like you .

I continue to post my views .. and record my p/l .. do you object to that too ?

I blocked you months ago - but just noticed that as soon as Happy posts something - which he now rarely does because of you - that you can't wait to get on the thread and criticise. Why do you feel the need to do that ?

It's pathetic that you try and come across as all innocent when it's abundantly clear that you are trying to wind him and others up and drive him off the Board.

Happy does post his P/L - just not on this board. He has no interest in competing with you. He's forgotten more about horse racing than you will ever know.

You just come across as a bitter sad f-uck craving a bit of attention.....back to being blocked now - ta ta loser.

Flyingboltclaret · Post by **Flyingboltclaret** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:25 pm

im guessing that last post and your recent ones on the racing thread sums up what your agenda is .. all your posts have been Critical and negative ones .. and abusive ...

The idea that you have that you can't comment or give your views on threads started by certain posters .. is arrogant and ridiculous.. And your views or lack of them on any racing related thread won't be missed .

Flyingboltclaret · Post by **Flyingboltclaret** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:32 pm

tim_noone wrote:I haven't seen any squabbling from FB if anything it's the "opposition " for the record like it or not I'm following Gordon Elliot at Cheltenham and jockey jack Kennedy .any decent priced Mullins runners I will back as well.

The weights for the Cheltenham handicaps come out today . Should be interesting

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:48 pm

Flyingboltclaret wrote:im guessing that last post and your recent ones on the racing thread sums up what your agenda is .. all your posts have been Critical and negative ones .. and abusive ...

The idea that you have that you can't comment or give your views on threads started by certain posters .. is arrogant and ridiculous.. And your views or lack of them on any racing related thread won't be missed .

I very rarely bet on horses but enjoyed Happys tips on Cheltenham and Aintree.
The only views I have ever expressed on a racing thread is in relation to you and your pathetic attempts to drive him off a board where he was appreciated by a number of people. The ONLY person with any kind of agenda has been you. The embarrassing contribution you made to this thread proves it more than ever.
I can just see you in your bedsit getting aroused when you realised Happy had posted a new thread for the first time in a while. I bet you exploded with excitement.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:01 pm

TVC15 wrote:I very rarely bet on horses but enjoyed Happys tips on Cheltenham and Aintree.
The only views I have ever expressed on a racing thread is in relation to you and your pathetic attempts to drive him off a board where he was appreciated by a number of people. The ONLY person with any kind of agenda has been you. The embarrassing contribution you made to this thread proves it more than ever.
I can just see you in your bedsit getting aroused when you realised Happy had posted a new thread for the first time in a while. I bet you exploded with excitement.

You can see him in his bedsit?

Should he be worried about being stalked ?

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:06 pm

bfccrazy wrote:You can see him in his bedsit?

Should he be worried about being stalked ?

The others will be on shortly...

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:26 pm

Flyingboltclaret wrote:Just pointing out a different view to sire stats .. Not squabbling... I do post my selections and record my p/l ..and have done consistently over the last weeks ... why don't you critisice the many who try to disrupt them with abuse and inaccurate information ?

i hardly bother reading these threads anymore as they've degenerated, just like the last time you started posting on here. i'm not criticising you, again, just pointing out the fact that you're still seemingly oblivious to, that it was you who started it all.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:34 pm

bfccrazy wrote:Because if you don't want any opposition to your views - don't post them on a public forum where they can be challenged

It's quite simple really.

don't think that was the problem, it wasn't so much that there was an opposing view it was more that it was based on rubbishing happy's methods constantly. i think that's what he took umbrage to and, given that he never commented on FB's reasoning, that's what caused all the bickering.

anyway, i'll remain neutral and leave you lads to it. i'd rather there were any number of decent tipsters on here as plenty of people seem to like a flutter, just a shame they have to criticise each other.

Flyingboltclaret · Post by **Flyingboltclaret** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:40 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:i hardly bother reading these threads anymore as they've degenerated, just like the last time you started posting on here. i'm not criticising you, again, just pointing out the fact that you're still seemingly oblivious to, that it was you who started it all.

The racing threads of recent weeks have degenerated because posters like TVC15 admit that there only posts on the racing threads are in relation to me .. they have no interest in the subject but didn't want me to post my views

Surely anyone can reply to any thread on this board and give their views .. which contradict others .. that's all I've ever done .. and posted my selections and my P/l for all to see

Ive removed Happy from the p/l as requested but it seems anytime I post anything that disagrees with Happy .. not critising him ( tho there's nothing wrong with that , and you should see some of the posts critiscing me ) the " dogs " come out of their kennels to bite

Check the footy posts .. and all the different views and critics on them ...

Flyingboltclaret · Post by **Flyingboltclaret** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:44 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:don't think that was the problem, it wasn't so much that there was an opposing view it was more that it was based on rubbishing happy's methods constantly. i think that's what he took umbrage to and, given that he never commented on FB's reasoning, that's what caused all the bickering.

anyway, i'll remain neutral and leave you lads to it. i'd rather there were any number of decent tipsters on here as plenty of people seem to like a flutter, just a shame they have to criticise each other.

He has commented on my reasoning... called me a clown , said I know nothing about racing .. even said I'd never been to Burnley and wasn't a Burnley fan .. all untrue.

I like you have always appreciated his views .. but not always agreed with them ..

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:03 pm

Very selective memory haven't you FB.

It would have been very simple and easy if you would have just stuck to your own tips thread instead of criticising Happy. That way we could have all just chosen which thread(s) we chose to read. You are the one who started this and you know very well that you were trying to antagonise Happy from the off.

It's funny that until you started criticise Happy I can't remember one poster who had anything bad to say about Happy - whether his tips won or not there was general appreciation of the fact that he was prepared to share his research with no strings attached. Anyone following him (or you) blindly deserved to lose money.

The whole thing about posting P/Ls and making it a competition is also not necessary...but again you did this to wind him up.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:40 pm

Keep up the good work Happy Claret, it always of interest when you post.

Ps

I always look forwards to your contribution in particular around the Aintree meeting

happyclaret17 · Post by **happyclaret17** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:46 pm

Hi Thewellernut
not very likely to be on here unfortunately for obvious reasons
but if you want to mail me at
1emmbee12@gmail.com
I will add you to the whatsapp group
just give me your username from utc if you get in touch....cheers.

Flyingboltclaret · Post by **Flyingboltclaret** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:53 pm

TVC15 wrote:Very selective memory haven't you FB.

It would have been very simple and easy if you would have just stuck to your own tips thread instead of criticising Happy. That way we could have all just chosen which thread(s) we chose to read. You are the one who started this and you know very well that you were trying to antagonise Happy from the off.

It's funny that until you started criticise Happy I can't remember one poster who had anything bad to say about Happy - whether his tips won or not there was general appreciation of the fact that he was prepared to share his research with no strings attached. Anyone following him (or you) blindly deserved to lose money.

The whole thing about posting P/Ls and making it a competition is also not necessary...but again you did this to wind him up.

You make a good point when you say "anyone following him ( or you ) deserved to lose there money "

The whole idea of the p/l was to give information so posters could decide .. and even those who disagree with me said it was a good idea .. It's not designed as a competition it's just an accurate record of selections, as you see in the Racing Oist etc

Why Happy chose to post his own p/l is beyond me.. perhaps because his actual selections weren't as profitable as he made out

Can't see why all selections and racing opinions shouldn't be in the same thread

Think the criticism from others of Happy stems from the fact that he and his followers give the impression that he is the only one who should post about racing , that he should have his own thread , and that he shouldn't be questioned .. making him out to be some kind of "racing god " The negative comments and constant sniping havnt helped either .. with not a single one of his followers posting anything about racing

It's a message board .. if you post your views expect them to be questioned etc

Anyway I'm happy to post my selections and my p/l .. Its an interesting exercise and I fully expect to show a big loss .. but with selective staking and decent priced winners hopefully some posters might make a few bob

It's just a bit of fun

Let's just agree to disagree

Carnsmerry12 · Post by **Carnsmerry12** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:20 pm

Mail sent Happy

Flyingboltclaret · Post by **Flyingboltclaret** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:32 pm

List of Leadng Sires at this years Festival ,first time since 2002 that no sire has recorded more than one victory, And making most of the pre festival sire stats pretty meaningless in the search for winners.

Nice to see Flemensfirth...that "poor sire at the track " very nearly finishing as this years festival top sire !!

LEADING SIRES AT THE CHELTENHAM FESTIVAL 2018

Stallion Wnrs 2nds 3rds
Oscar 1 2 2
Flemensfirth 1 1 2
Sandmason 1 1
Shantou 1 1
Robin Des Champs 1 2
Assessor 1 1
Blue Bresil 1 1
Authorized 1
Balko 1
Court Cave 1
Creachadoir 1
Crillon 1
Fast Comapany 1
Germany 1
Golan 1
Great Pretender 1
Heron Island 1
High Chaparral 1
Indian River 1
Intikhab 1
Jukebox Jury 1
Mount Nelson 1
Muhtathir 1
Network 1
Sir Percy 1
Spanish Moon 1
Special Kaldoun 1
Yeats 1
Milan 2 2
Kalanisi 2
Kapgarde 2
Mahler 2
Martaline 1 1
Saddler Maker 1 1
Denham Red 1
Galileo 1
Kayf Tara 1
Kotky Bleu 1
Medicean 1
Midnight Legend 1
Mister Sacha 1
Perugino 1
Scorpion 1
Truth Or Dare 1
Walk In The Park 1
Well Chosen 1
Cloudings 2
Dubai Destination 2
Al Namix 1
Beneficial 1
Blue Bresil 1
Craigsteel 1
Dalakhani 1
Dink 1
Jeremy 1
King's Theatre 1
Lope De Vega 1
Presenting 1
Saint Des Saints 1
Soldier Of Fortune 1
Vendangeur 1
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