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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Murger » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:22 pm

Do we actually need to spend money on another keeper if Trafford goes? Hladky, Green and Casper as our 3 look solid enough.

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Post by Wokingclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:23 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:15 pm
I'm not worried.

If we sell for a big profit and we daisy chain then I am quite content for it to happen. The re-investment is the important aspect and let's be honest, if there's anything the american owners have definitely done; it is invest in the playing stock.

We make a profit from sales and move on.

A sound business model.

In all honesty, why would you stand in the way of a young professional who is wanted by an EPL club? A player who missed half of his playing time through injury.

Move on.
Hell of a pressure on the manager to bond and gell the new team in time. We've probably blown automatic promotion.

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Post by willsclarets » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:23 pm

Absolutely pointless selling Amdouni or Kolesho. Both are very likely to be worth way more in 12 months time. As well as the more pressing matter, which is getting promoted. Which is worth a lot of money too. Both of these factors make selling them economically stupid. Not to mention the players and the fans morale, which after last week is floating around the rocks.
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Post by billyhamilton82 » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:24 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:01 pm
Hannibal one of the ones today. Two wingers as well. Sounds like our main winger may be on the way out.
This is going to take some proper wheeling and dealing to get us into any fit state to challenge for the top two.

If Koleosho goes then we definitely need some marquee signings to cover the loss both on and off the pitch as the fans will be extremely unhappy and more importantly the effect without him on the pitch against Sunderland was there for all to see.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:24 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 10:32 am
Ha! Yeah….and Almiron, right?! :D

Being realistic maybe someone like Targett the left back? I’m not sure Pires is particularly up to it and we could do with some additional strength on that position too.
Is that the Pires that played well in his first 2 matches and poorly, along with all the side, in the last? After the turmoil surrounding the club and the two late withdrawals it is no surprise we were pants on Saturday. Give the guy a chance FFS.
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Post by bodge » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:24 pm

Would be quite happy if we don't get Billing, he's the very definition of languid.

Good player in a dominant team with the majority of possession but away from home in a muck and nettles game, don't think so.

The proviso being that Parker opts to play 3 in midfield in which case it may work with 2 ratters like Cullen and Brownhill.

Billing would prove to be a divisive figure i reckon as he's one of those that doesn't look like he's putting the hard yards in due to his style/gait.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:25 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:03 pm
If we are selling Koleosho then this is absolutely unbelievable
Indeed...way beyond a joke now

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Post by burnley007 » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:25 pm

Whoever we bring in, I'll just refer to them by their squad number, saves getting emotionally involved.

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Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:25 pm

Murger wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:14 pm
Didn’t somebody post the bid as £2.6m for Luca? Or did I imagine that?
Someone has offered £2.6m for him?? Nah, that can't be true.

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Post by ervi34 » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:26 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:15 pm
I'm not worried.

If we sell for a big profit and we daisy chain then I am quite content for it to happen. The re-investment is the important aspect and let's be honest, if there's anything the american owners have definitely done; it is invest in the playing stock.

We make a profit from sales and move on.

A sound business model.

In all honesty, why would you stand in the way of a young professional who is wanted by an EPL club? A player who missed half of his playing time through injury.

Move on.
Do you honestly think it was a smart idea to sell Odobert and Zaroury, with Koleosho and Benson also likely to leave, and replace them with the likes of Sarmiento and Jaidon Anthony? Selling and making profit is good as long as you reinvest some of this. The way we are doing business this summer is a complete shambles.

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Post by Murger » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:27 pm

I’d take Billing all day long. But unless Brownhill is going, I don’t think we’d be going for another cm on top of Hannibal.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:27 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:19 pm
It’s unbelievable to me that people can have the view they don’t care about our best players leaving. Amdouni next. Trafford. When does it stop? What a joke. Oh and absolutely no one has said anything about Messi or made that comparison, very weird comment.
There were clear caveats in my post about replacing with better technical players which you have chosen to ignore. He cost us very little and we’ll make a lot of money from selling him now. He’s not a very good footballer. Quick? Yes. Good footballer? Not really.

The Messi comment was extreme, granted. I know nobody has made a comparison to him. But people go on about Koleosho like he’s some incredible footballer (is the point). He’s not a patch on Zarorury from a footballing point of view.

I think you need to take a breath and have a sit down. Read posts properly before responding on such a manner. I thought you had more about you than this.

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:27 pm

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:25 pm
Someone has offered £2.6m for him?? Nah, that can't be true.
If it's a profit we will consider it ;)

All part of the process

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Post by Row x » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:29 pm

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:25 pm
Someone has offered £2.6m for him?? Nah, that can't be true.
Quite clearly stated on this thread, fee would be between Berges and Odoberts, and has not been met, and might never be

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:29 pm

claretskeith wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:20 pm
Then you're not bothered about staying down.
Give over.

Read my post properly.

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Post by matttheclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:29 pm

He hasn't signed yet, but is anybody else already seriously excited for the potential profit we might make on Hannibal
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Post by boyyanno » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:29 pm

I think Billing would compliment our midfielders well, I like Hannibal as well.

Can't believe people would want to lose Koleosho, genuinely one of the best talents I've seen at our football club. We have to do what Leeds did with Gnonto on this one for me.
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Post by ClaretAL » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:30 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:19 pm
It’s unbelievable to me that people can have the view they don’t care about our best players leaving. Amdouni next. Trafford. When does it stop? What a joke. Oh and absolutely no one has said anything about Messi or made that comparison, very weird comment.
Take it easy mate - Your stressing over nothing you have control of, and likely to do yourself no good what so ever.
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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:30 pm

Murger wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:22 pm
Do we actually need to spend money on another keeper if Trafford goes? Hladky, Green and Casper as our 3 look solid enough.
What have you seen of Green and Casper ?

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Post by cockneyclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:30 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:01 pm
Hannibal one of the ones today. Two wingers as well. Sounds like our main winger may be on the way out.
Benson?

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Post by willsclarets » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:31 pm

What a waste of time it was Parker coming in over the summer to instil his ideas and culture into the squad. By Saturday he'll have to introduce himself all over again
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:31 pm

Murger wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:27 pm
I’d take Billing all day long. But unless Brownhill is going, I don’t think we’d be going for another cm on top of Hannibal.
Think Cullens injury might of changed their mind, Hannibal and another cm 100% needed in my opinion

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Post by Wokingclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:32 pm

billyhamilton82 wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:24 pm
This is going to take some proper wheeling and dealing to get us into any fit state to challenge for the top two.

If Koleosho goes then we definitely need some marquee signings to cover the loss both on and off the pitch as the fans will be extremely unhappy and more importantly the effect without him on the pitch against Sunderland was there for all to see.
You'd struggle on Football Manager to do this amount of dealings

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Post by ervi34 » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:32 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:30 pm
Take it easy mate - Your stressing over nothing you have control of, and likely to do yourself no good what so ever.
Let's just shut the board down then?

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Post by Murger » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:33 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:30 pm
What have you seen of Green and Casper ?
Not much, admittedly.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:33 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:24 pm
Is that the Pires that played well in his first 2 matches and poorly, along with all the side, in the last? After the turmoil surrounding the club and the two late withdrawals it is no surprise we were pants on Saturday. Give the guy a chance FFS.
I am giving him a chance and will continue to do so. He just hasn’t filled me with confidence in his early performances. Also we still need left back cover.

And for what it’s worth, he played well at Luton, wasn’t great v Cardiff and was abysmal on Saturday.

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:34 pm

I don't think two wingers coming in means Koleosho is going. We've already sold Odobert and Zaroury, Benson clearly is never playing another game for us, Redmond is out until god knows when and Tresor is a shape shifting crime fighter.

If we sign two, then we've essentially got 3 wingers for the first half of the season.

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Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:34 pm

Row x wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:29 pm
Quite clearly stated on this thread, fee would be between Berges and Odoberts, and has not been met, and might never be
That was further down the thread I think, I hadn't read that when I pressed the reply button on the post.

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Post by D8BFC » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:35 pm

Are we saying Koleosho is priceless?

If the fee is going to be about 23m - is that not too good to turn down?

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:36 pm

Murger wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:22 pm
Do we actually need to spend money on another keeper if Trafford goes? Hladky, Green and Casper as our 3 look solid enough.
Travers is better than any of them but I’d stick with Hladky and see where we’re at next May.

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Post by CoolClaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:36 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:30 pm
Take it easy mate - Your stressing over nothing you have control of, and likely to do yourself no good what so ever.
Of course, that's what being a fan is... Otherwise there's no point and football is all but dead. You can't blame people for being passionate about their club.

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:37 pm

D8BFC wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:35 pm
Are we saying Koleosho is priceless?

If the fee is going to be about 23m - is that not too good to turn down?
Not that he's priceless, he's still going to be worth that or more in 12 months. We don't need to sell everyone for a quick profit.
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Post by JimmyRobbo » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:38 pm

ervi34 wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:26 pm
Do you honestly think it was a smart idea to sell Odobert and Zaroury, with Koleosho and Benson also likely to leave, and replace them with the likes of Sarmiento and Jaidon Anthony? Selling and making profit is good as long as you reinvest some of this. The way we are doing business this summer is a complete shambles.
Have you actually watched them?

Benson has a heart of a peanut and a body of a glass bottle. He'll inly be fit for 20 games from 50 or 60.
Zaroury had packed in when he returned from the WC. Wasn't great in his loan spells and got dropped.
Odobert, I was disappointed with but that is an important return on your investment and why stand in his way?
Koleosho had a serious injury and only played until Christmas last season. He may yet be suceptible to inhury. Big money and why stand in his way?

Absolutely not a shambles. Returning significant proft envourages further investment.

This is very good business. We will be much stronger than when VK took over.

I don't like losing our better players. Definitely not in the week before the Backburn game.I like recognising the team we put out and I like to get a relationship with them.

It is good for growth. I am fine with it provided they re-invest. They will.
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Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:39 pm

Murger wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:27 pm
I’d take Billing all day long. But unless Brownhill is going, I don’t think we’d be going for another cm on top of Hannibal.
Spot on. Cullen doing what he does, Brownhill getting about and Mejbri as the ball carrier we desperately need.
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Post by Raconteur » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:41 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:15 pm
The other two are left wingers so it’s hard to conclude we’re keeping Koleosho unless we’re moving him to the right.

The two are the players I didn’t rate.

Hannibal a good signing though.
Hi New, who are these 2 players.

Can you name them please?
There's nothing stopping you.
It's a bit of a cop if you don't

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:41 pm

Row x wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:29 pm
Quite clearly stated on this thread, fee would be between Berges and Odoberts, and has not been met, and might never be
I’ll take that with a pinch of salt thank you.
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Post by ElectroClaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:42 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:23 pm
We've probably blown automatic promotion.
After three games? Two of which we've won?
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Post by LongsideClaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:42 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:37 pm
Not that he's priceless, he's still going to be worth that or more in 12 months. We don't need to sell everyone for a quick profit.
In fairness I think even with a very good championship season he wouldn’t be worth miles north of that if we didn’t get promoted.

Benson to Leeds looks like it won’t be happening now, not sure how much his bridges have been burned or whether there’s a way back for him here. Haven’t heard of concrete interest from other clubs for him.
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Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:43 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:38 pm
Have you actually watched them?

Benson has a heart of a peanut and a body of a glass bottle. He'll inly be fit for 20 games from 50 or 60.
Zaroury had packed in when he returned from the WC. Wasn't great in his loan spells and got dropped.
Odobert, I was disappointed with but that is an important return on your investment and why stand in his way?
Koleosho had a serious injury and only played until Christmas last season. He may yet be suceptible to inhury. Big money and why stand in his way?

Absolutely not a shambles. Returning significant proft envourages further investment.

This is very good business. We will be much stronger than when VK took over.

I don't like losing our better players. Definitely not in the week before the Backburn game.I like recognising the team we put out and I like to get a relationship with them.

It is good for growth. I am fine with it provided they re-invest. They will.
Well said.

It’s horrible losing players like this on a regular basis but if they want off then let them go and maximise what you can get.

I get it - it feels like a punch in the guts every time it happens.

But the key here is that the club act fast and reinvest. Bring in some quality that the fans can get excited about. There’s no point carrying sulkers.
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Post by CoolClaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:44 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:42 pm
After three games? Two of which we've won?
Two of which we were fielding a completely different XI than we will be fielding for the rest of the season?

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Post by Row x » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:44 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:41 pm
I’ll take that with a pinch of salt thank you.
OK, but the poster has been pretty accurate so far this season

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Post by Blyclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:44 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:38 pm
Have you actually watched them?

Benson has a heart of a peanut and a body of a glass bottle. He'll inly be fit for 20 games from 50 or 60.
Zaroury had packed in when he returned from the WC. Wasn't great in his loan spells and got dropped.
Odobert, I was disappointed with but that is an important return on your investment and why stand in his way?
Koleosho had a serious injury and only played until Christmas last season. He may yet be suceptible to inhury. Big money and why stand in his way?

Absolutely not a shambles. Returning significant proft envourages further investment.

This is very good business. We will be much stronger than when VK took over.

Agree with everything here. Plus what’s SP supposed to do with players have have downed tool and don’t want to play for Burnley.
Get rid at a sizeable profit and bring in players that do want to play for SP and Burnley.
Players are not pets. We don’t have to keep them u til that have grey beards on them.




I don't like losing our better players. Definitely not in the week before the Backburn game.I like recognising the team we put out and I like to get a relationship with them.

It is good for growth. I am fine with it provided they re-invest. They will.

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Post by ervi34 » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:44 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:38 pm
Have you actually watched them?

Benson has a heart of a peanut and a body of a glass bottle. He'll inly be fit for 20 games from 50 or 60.
Zaroury had packed in when he returned from the WC. Wasn't great in his loan spells and got dropped.
Odobert, I was disappointed with but that is an important return on your investment and why stand in his way?
Koleosho had a serious injury and only played until Christmas last season. He may yet be suceptible to inhury. Big money and why stand in his way?

Absolutely not a shambles. Returning significant proft envourages further investment.

This is very good business. We will be much stronger than when VK took over.

I don't like losing our better players. Definitely not in the week before the Backburn game.I like recognising the team we put out and I like to get a relationship with them.

It is good for growth. I am fine with it provided they re-invest. They will.
Yes mate, I've watched Zaroury taking players on for fun and scoring for us. I've also seen Benson scoring 4 bangers in a row, one that won us the title at Ewood Park.

I have to say I didn't personally see much of Anthony and Sarmiento, but between them, they've scored 6 goals last season in 71 games. No matter how hard you try to spin it, there's no chance they are better than what we had 2 seasons ago.

You like recognizing the team we put out? Good luck with that on Saturday. It will be a nervy derby when you have 5 debutants.
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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:45 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:42 pm
In fairness I think even with a very good championship season he wouldn’t be worth miles north of that if we didn’t get promoted.
Agreed. His stock is as high now as it might arguably get. He hasn’t shown enough technical ability to make me think he’ll get much better. Comparing him to Gnonto and Summerville (like some have) are poor comparisons.

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by jedi_master » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:45 pm

Koleosho going is that unbelievable I almost admire Alan Pace’s cojones to sanction that days before a Derby against Blackburn Rovers. What an absolute embarrassment.

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by ervi34 » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:47 pm

In the meantime, Lee Ryder (pretty reliable for Newcastle): "#nufc sources play down James Trafford talks as club focus on winger & defender. Although stopper is "admired" by Magpies."

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:49 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:42 pm
In fairness I think even with a very good championship season he wouldn’t be worth miles north of that if we didn’t get promoted.

Benson to Leeds looks like it won’t be happening now, not sure how much his bridges have been burned or whether there’s a way back for him here. Haven’t heard of concrete interest from other clubs for him.
I know they play on different wings but keeping benson would soften the blow of losing koleosho

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Wokingclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:49 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:42 pm
After three games? Two of which we've won?
And may be now thinking the first two was players showing themselves in the shop window

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Blyclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:49 pm

We need to sell players if we have no money. Where do u think the money comes from to run the club. Pay the players.
I run my own business and every week every month it takes a huge amount of money to keep the doors open. I have to bring money in every month to achieve that.

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by jedi_master » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:50 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:22 pm
Sarmiento is one of the winger medicals
This is a good signing - but it all feels, and is, utterly irrelevant when the club is selling Koleosho and probably Amdouni as well.

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