January transfer window rumours.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:29 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:28 pm
Where have you got that from? FBref has it down as 0.29 xG
Sounds more like it…

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:40 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:21 pm
Hey I mentioned his finishing! Though I may be on a ‘foe’ list…
Certainly not. Apologies for missing your post.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Big Vinny K » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:46 pm

dsr wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:43 pm
The XG people didn't. They gave him a 3% chance!
0.29 xg does not mean 3%.
It’s a probability rating that this kind of chance would be scored 29 times out of a 100.
So 29% effectively.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by dsr » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:55 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:29 pm
Sounds more like it…
Definitely sounds more like it. I got it from infogol, which anyone can google if they want to. Obviously they misplaced a decimal. (Though with Tella, 29% still sounds low!)

And back to the transfer rumours ...

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:59 pm

If McNally does well at Cov, they may want to keep him in the summer (all 5 of their back 5 will be loanees if he signs, with most of them at Chelsea / City / Arsenal). You never know but it could help up sweeten a deal for the Swedish striker or Gustavo Hamer (centre mid).
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Steddyman » Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:04 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:51 pm
McNally close to joining Coventry on loan according to Pete O’Rourke. Decent move for him.
We should asking for a £15 million loan fee if it is Coventry.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:18 pm

Another player for their weird fans to boo next season if he goes on loan somewhere else

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by beddie » Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:33 pm

Talk at UTD of Maguire and McTominay being moved on.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Swizzlestick » Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:50 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:40 pm
Certainly not. Apologies for missing your post.
haha, no worries, just joshing. I've been seriously impressed with his finishing.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Conroy92 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:23 pm

If McNally does ok at Coventry and based on us just signing two more defenders, there could be a good deal in summer involving him and Gyokeres.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Flying Without Ings » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:38 pm

Everyday gets a little bit more depressing for Everton. Spurs have nicked their player they were about to announce. Medical and media duties were done as well.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:39 pm

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sour ... akthrough/

Peter O’Rourke suggesting Foster deal pending a work permit with a hearing imminent.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:39 pm

Flying Without Ings wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:38 pm
Everyday gets a little bit more depressing for Everton. Spurs have nicked their player they were about to announce. Medical and media duties were done as well.
Karma for their fans acting like bellends towards the end of last season

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by agreenwood » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:41 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:39 pm
https://www.footballinsider247.com/sour ... akthrough/

Peter O’Rourke suggesting Foster deal pending a work permit with a hearing imminent.
I’ll take the Belgium journos word that it’s €7m rather than the £8m O’Rourke is reporting.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:47 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:39 pm
https://www.footballinsider247.com/sour ... akthrough/

Peter O’Rourke suggesting Foster deal pending a work permit with a hearing imminent.
Fair play for them claiming an "exclusive" for something everyone knew about two days ago

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by MancunianClaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:52 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:39 pm
Karma for their fans acting like bellends towards the end of last season
Yeah, couldn't happen to a nicer bunch imo. I'd rather Dyche stayed away from them as he'll probably keep them up.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:05 pm

MancunianClaret wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:52 pm
Yeah, couldn't happen to a nicer bunch imo. I'd rather Dyche stayed away from them as he'll probably keep them up.
I don't think they would play for him, TBH.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by KateR » Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:08 pm

I think like many of us, we couldn't see past relegation and the difficulty of coming straight back with a new manager and an aging team, the reset has worked so much better than what I expected. However, looking at other relegated sides you don't see many if any that went through the wholesale changes we did.

Everton going down could be just what they need but they need a board and manager that can see how much change is needed, along with vision to decimate the side they have, many of the first team won't want be playing football in the second tier, I don't believe they would have the vision or be brave enough. Southampton have very similar issues but I think they would adopt to wholesale changes better than Everton, any relegated club will be looking at this BFC model and wondering if it would work for them.

I think Southampton going down means they have a ready made, proven player at this level, BFC would be a EPL club and can afford it so the price in summer will be very high, for these reasons I'm not sure we get Tella in summer but I'm convinced he'd like to switch to a permanent position with BFC.

Wouldn't expect to see Tark's and McNeil coming back to us though.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:18 pm

Tarks I'd take on a free ,Dwight lacks the guts for a fight
Too many cba performances for us and now Everton

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by the_magic_rat » Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:25 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:11 pm
All the mention above is re Tellas pace, pressing and commitment. Not a mention of his finishing which is a long way above average. Who didn’t think he’d score on Friday night? I was applauding as soon as Anass played the through ball.
And what a beautiful finish it was, particularly after the unusually ordinary first touch!

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by MancunianClaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:39 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:18 pm
Tarks I'd take on a free ,Dwight lacks the guts for a fight
Too many cba performances for us and now Everton
Tarks has looked pretty shaky for Everton of late. Not sure he's that brilliant outside of playing a low block in his own box.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Goody1975 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:59 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:41 pm
I’ll take the Belgium journos word that it’s €7m rather than the £8m O’Rourke is reporting.
The deal is reported as 7m Euros + 3m, so he could be quoting the total figure which exceeds £8million.

Just a thought.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Chester Perry » Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:33 pm

KateR wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:08 pm
I think like many of us, we couldn't see past relegation and the difficulty of coming straight back with a new manager and an aging team, the reset has worked so much better than what I expected. However, looking at other relegated sides you don't see many if any that went through the wholesale changes we did.

Everton going down could be just what they need but they need a board and manager that can see how much change is needed, along with vision to decimate the side they have, many of the first team won't want be playing football in the second tier, I don't believe they would have the vision or be brave enough. Southampton have very similar issues but I think they would adopt to wholesale changes better than Everton, any relegated club will be looking at this BFC model and wondering if it would work for them.

I think Southampton going down means they have a ready made, proven player at this level, BFC would be a EPL club and can afford it so the price in summer will be very high, for these reasons I'm not sure we get Tella in summer but I'm convinced he'd like to switch to a permanent position with BFC.

Wouldn't expect to see Tark's and McNeil coming back to us though.
The problem Everton have had for several season is that they could not get rid of the players they wanted to because they were on such ludicrously high contracts - that is coming to an end to a degree - though word is they are paying Tarks and McNeil a combined £200k per week - those wages made it difficult to shift players on though somehow they got the Premier League to accept it was down to Covid impacted market conditions to pass FFP.

The question is have they learned the lessons of last season and put relegation clauses in the new deals - if not then moving players on is going to be difficult to say the least

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Stayingup » Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:40 pm

MancunianClaret wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:39 pm
Tarks has looked pretty shaky for Everton of late. Not sure he's that brilliant outside of playing a low block in his own box.
I would think:-

1. He's naffed off playing in a poor team

2. He's playing on the left of a back three. Not suited to that position. Right footed and no quick enough.

He was great for us in the style we played at the time. He Mee and Pope were excellent.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:41 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:33 pm
The problem Everton have had for several season is that they could not get rid of the players they wanted to because they were on such ludicrously high contracts - that is coming to an end to a degree - though word is they are paying Tarks and McNeil a combined £200k per week - those wages made it difficult to shift players on though somehow they got the Premier League to accept it was down to Covid impacted market conditions to pass FFP.

The question is have they learned the lessons of last season and put relegation clauses in the new deals - if not then moving players on is going to be difficult to say the least
No chance they've been sensible and included relegation clauses.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:42 pm

MancunianClaret wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:39 pm
Tarks has looked pretty shaky for Everton of late. Not sure he's that brilliant outside of playing a low block in his own box.
Playing in the wrong position.
Midfield offering zero protection

Going out on a limb here but I'm not surprised if Tarks is looking shaky.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:44 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:42 pm
Playing in the wrong position.
Midfield offering zero protection

Going out on a limb here but I'm not surprised if Tarks is looking shaky.
Left in a back 3 last week. No good for him.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:48 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:33 pm
The question is have they learned the lessons of last season and put relegation clauses in the new deals - if not then moving players on is going to be difficult to say the least
Question for you Chester.
Does a player have the opportunity to be sold with a reduction in salary or is he tied to the contract he signed?
I guess with a relegation a lot of clubs would be happy for their big earners to move on whilst others would keep them trying to bounce back.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:03 pm

That ITK YouTuber Liam again wrong, claiming Forster was already in the UK, yet an official reporter from Belgium says:

Burnley waiting for the player to fly and get his work permit. Visa is required now… As a reminder, #Burnley got an agreement with #Westerlo for 7M€ + bonus in case of promotion in PL.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Chester Perry » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:03 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:48 pm
Question for you Chester.
Does a player have the opportunity to be sold with a reduction in salary or is he tied to the contract he signed?
I guess with a relegation a lot of clubs would be happy for their big earners to move on whilst others would keep them trying to bounce back.
If the player is willing they can take a pay cut and go elsewhere - Everton have not found many of them wanting to do so
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by burnley007 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:06 pm

Why are you discussing Tarks on a transfer thread?? Are we signing him??

Bizarre
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Jakubclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:22 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:03 pm
If the player is willing they can take a pay cut and go elsewhere - Everton have not found many of them wanting to do so
Have everton ever proposed that?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Jakubclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:22 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:03 pm
If the player is willing they can take a pay cut and go elsewhere - Everton have not found many of them wanting to do so
Have everton ever proposed that?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by northeastclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:31 pm

Can anyone advise on whether they think the work permit for Forster will be a formality or not ? And a visa as well?

You would expect Burnley wouldn’t have taken it so far if they weren’t confident. What does anyone who knows a bit about the criteria think ?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by agreenwood » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:35 pm

northeastclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:31 pm
Can anyone advise on whether they think the work permit for Forster will be a formality or not ? And a visa as well?

You would expect Burnley wouldn’t have taken it so far if they weren’t confident. What does anyone who knows a bit about the criteria think ?
If we got one for Ekdal, getting one for Foster shouldn’t be an issue. The Belgian Pro League is viewed more far favourably in the points based system the Allsvenskan League.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Chester Perry » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:36 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:22 pm
Have everton ever proposed that?
not directly but players have been unable to agree terms with clubs who have had expressed interest in them

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by northeastclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:40 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:35 pm
If we got one for Ekdal, getting one for Foster shouldn’t be an issue. The Belgian Pro League is viewed more far favourably in the points based system the Allsvenskan League.
That’s good thanks

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by MancunianClaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:40 pm

Everton gonna swoop in for him, feel it.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by northeastclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:41 pm

Even though he is South African ?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:45 pm

northeastclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:31 pm
Can anyone advise on whether they think the work permit for Forster will be a formality or not ? And a visa as well?

You would expect Burnley wouldn’t have taken it so far if they weren’t confident. What does anyone who knows a bit about the criteria think ?
https://www.transferroom.com/gbe#calculator

This website has a calculator for work permits, type his name in there and it suggests he will pass for one.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Jakubclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:46 pm

Predominantly especially in tarks case if I'm allowed to mention him, due to FFP evertons new policy seems to be picking up free agents & gazumping other clubs offering them better terms costing them more in wages but saving them on transfer fees so why would players accept adjustments when they have already waived other offers prior. In response to CP.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by agreenwood » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:46 pm

northeastclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:41 pm
Even though he is South African ?
Nationality only really a factor if you’re a regular for your country. The higher the country you’ve represented are in the FIFA rankings, the more points you get. If you’ve never/barely played, it doesn’t matter if you’re from France or Venezuela.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by agreenwood » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:49 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:45 pm
https://www.transferroom.com/gbe#calculator

This website has a calculator for work permits, type his name in there and it suggests he will pass for one.
That’s a real find if it’s accurate.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:49 pm

northeastclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:41 pm
Even though he is South African ?
He will need a Visa as well

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by tiger76 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:27 pm

Don't know if this has been mentioned, but Bournemouth today signed Nicolas Jackson for £20m from Villarreal, a striker who's netted 3 in 24 this season and he's going for £20m+ the game has gone mad.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:41 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:27 pm
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but Bournemouth today signed Nicolas Jackson for £20m from Villarreal, a striker who's netted 3 in 24 this season and he's going for £20m+ the game has gone mad.
Unbelievable.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Claret Toni » Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:09 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:27 pm
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but Bournemouth today signed Nicolas Jackson for £20m from Villarreal, a striker who's netted 3 in 24 this season and he's going for £20m+ the game has gone mad.
Striker!!

Everton would view him as a goal machine.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:15 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:27 pm
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but Bournemouth today signed Nicolas Jackson for £20m from Villarreal, a striker who's netted 3 in 24 this season and he's going for £20m+ the game has gone mad.
Isn’t he more of an attacking midfielder? (similar to Brownhill in our set up). I’ve only ever seen him play there.

Moreno is their main striker.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by superdimitri » Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:20 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:27 pm
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but Bournemouth today signed Nicolas Jackson for £20m from Villarreal, a striker who's netted 3 in 24 this season and he's going for £20m+ the game has gone mad.
I don't think he's really a centre forward, he's just been deployed there this season by Villarreal. Here's his bio:
https://www.epicsportsafrica.com/player ... s-jackson/

My guess is Villarreal have been doing the typical Spanish thing and playing him as a false 9 or something.

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