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Re: Next manager

Post by NottsClaret » Sun May 26, 2024 9:15 pm

The sooner this Lampard rumour dies, the happier I’ll be. Get this wrong and another spell in the wilderness awaits. Although to be fair, I’ll probably enjoy it anyway.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Spijed » Sun May 26, 2024 9:37 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Sun May 26, 2024 9:15 pm
The sooner this Lampard rumour dies, the happier I’ll be. Get this wrong and another spell in the wilderness awaits. Although to be fair, I’ll probably enjoy it anyway.
And therein lies the problem. Are we in a position to be able to prioritise style over the need to get promoted due to our financial issues?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun May 26, 2024 9:42 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun May 26, 2024 6:55 pm
One thing to consider is as of tomorrow we may be competing with Leeds United for a new manager.
And Man United :D

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Sun May 26, 2024 9:46 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun May 26, 2024 6:55 pm
One thing to consider is as of tomorrow we may be competing with Leeds United for a new manager.
Fortunately we’ll have a lot more to spend on one.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Nonayforever » Sun May 26, 2024 10:08 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun May 26, 2024 6:55 pm
One thing to consider is as of tomorrow we may be competing with Leeds United for a new manager.
We are competing with the likes of Bayern Munich now, not rubbish like Leeds.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Cooclaret » Sun May 26, 2024 10:57 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
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Likely: IMG_8676.jpeg

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Still hoping for the special one

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pearcey » Sun May 26, 2024 10:57 pm

Leeds will have to tighten their belts next season. Can’t believe that they would sack Farke after getting that many points!

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Re: Next manager

Post by COBBLE » Sun May 26, 2024 11:39 pm

I am not sure how anyone can assess Lampard against other candidates. He did well at Derby, very well in his first season at Chelsea. At Everton it needed the bouncers in. If Frank joins the project I would welcome him and I suspect so would most of the players.

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Re: Next manager

Post by rob63 » Mon May 27, 2024 2:10 am

IanMcL wrote:
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If I say Moyes regularly, perhaps it will happen.
Isn't that how you summon the devil? ;)
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Re: Next manager

Post by morninbob » Mon May 27, 2024 6:13 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun May 26, 2024 6:55 pm
One thing to consider is as of tomorrow we may be competing with Leeds United for a new manager.
And Leicester and Ipswich and Brentford.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon May 27, 2024 7:21 am

Sky bet have opened markets for Man City next manager but haven’t bothered for Burnley and Sunderland

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Re: Next manager

Post by theduke » Mon May 27, 2024 8:50 am

nil_desperandum wrote:
Sun May 26, 2024 4:31 pm
So what opportunities do you see for Moyes in the PL at present?
Doubt he'll want to move abroad at this stage of his career.
He has a lot of connections (+ a house) up here.
He would inherit one of the strongest (if not the strongest) squads in the Championship, and a two year contract for him with a bonus if he takes us up and keeps us up would surely be almost perfect for him??
Leicester look like they'll need a manager.
Brighton still need one.
Ipswich might need one.

Then he can wait it out until someone is sacked early / mid season

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Re: Next manager

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon May 27, 2024 8:51 am

Dean Smith often mentioned in the past.In the US and doing well.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Casper2 » Mon May 27, 2024 8:59 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 8:51 am
Dean Smith often mentioned in the past.In the US and doing well.
Let’s hope he stays there .

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Re: Next manager

Post by It Is What It Is » Mon May 27, 2024 9:11 am

I find it incredible that BFC has not made some sort of statement regarding the clubs managerial position.
They must know the fans need to be updated.
Don't want rumours, deal not yet done but they still have VKs speech on their website talking about his plans with us for next season.
You get better updates from the media.

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/con ... ture-ahead

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Re: Next manager

Post by taio » Mon May 27, 2024 9:15 am

It Is What It Is wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 9:11 am
I find it incredible that BFC has not made some sort of statement regarding the clubs managerial position.
They must know the fans need to be updated.
Don't want rumours, deal not yet done but they still have VKs speech on their website talking about his plans with us for next season.
You get better updates from the media.

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/con ... ture-ahead
Most people on the thread below are of the clear view that it would be wrong for the club to make a statement until Kompany’s move has been officially completed:

viewtopic.php?style=2&f=2&t=76028

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Re: Next manager

Post by TPClaret » Mon May 27, 2024 9:17 am

taio wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 9:15 am
Most people on the thread below are of the clear view that it would be wrong for the club to make a statement until Kompany’s move has been officially completed:

viewtopic.php?style=2&f=2&t=76028
They’d look a bit silly making a statement and then it doesn’t happen.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon May 27, 2024 9:26 am

taio wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 9:15 am
Most people on the thread below are of the clear view that it would be wrong for the club to make a statement until Kompany’s move has been officially completed:

viewtopic.php?style=2&f=2&t=76028
It doesn't have to be all or nothing though. Some indication of what's actually happening would probably suffice for some people. You don't have to leave people completely in the dark you can briefly tell people where you are.
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Re: Next manager

Post by taio » Mon May 27, 2024 9:30 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 9:26 am
It doesn't have to be all or nothing though. Some indication of what's actually happening would probably suffice for some people. You don't have to leave people completely in the dark you can briefly tell people where you are.
Of course the club could do that. But in my view, and the view of others, it wouldn't be the right thing to do until the deal has been completed. I don't think people are in the dark - it's clear what's happening and the club will surely issue a statement in due course when the time is right.

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Re: Next manager

Post by warksclaret » Mon May 27, 2024 9:46 am

Its outside our control now, Bayern need to finalise clauses with VK. Gives our Board time to do some behind the scenes sounding out of replacements, so once BM make the announcement we can move quickly

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Re: Next manager

Post by Ilkley claret » Mon May 27, 2024 9:46 am

Just like Bayern, we may not get our first, second or third choice of manager, given how many PL vacancies out there.

Perhaps Pace is better looking further afield than all the names being touted.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Steddyman » Mon May 27, 2024 9:52 am

Betting market has opened on sky bet now for Burnley:

https://m.skybet.com/football

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Re: Next manager

Post by Murger » Mon May 27, 2024 9:56 am

Some frightening names on that list.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Mon May 27, 2024 9:59 am

Steddyman wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 9:52 am
Betting market has opened on sky bet now for Burnley:

https://m.skybet.com/football
Link wasn't working for me so just posting the screenshot. Some absolutely baffling names on there

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Re: Next manager

Post by nil_desperandum » Mon May 27, 2024 10:04 am

theduke wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 8:50 am
Leicester look like they'll need a manager.
Brighton still need one.
Ipswich might need one.

Then he can wait it out until someone is sacked early / mid season
Don't think there's any chance that Brighton want him
With regards to the other 2 posts or picking up a job following a sacking, this means he is taking on a backs to the wall fight against relegation
(Quite possible that Leicester will be deducted points)
He is coming up 62. Ipswich is a long, long way from his home in Lytham
If I were him I'd much prefer to walk my dogs every morning on the green or beach at Lytham, then make the short journey to manage a team who must start amongst the favourites for promotion
He's not short of money so it rather depends on what his priorities are, but for me a 2 year deal at Burnley with a good incentive to gain promotion and then keep us up would be perfect for both parties.

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Mon May 27, 2024 10:04 am

Murger wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 9:56 am
Some frightening names on that list.
Some very good ones as well.

Would like to see Knutsen, Cooper and Moyes making their way up that list.

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Re: Next manager

Post by BurnleyFC » Mon May 27, 2024 10:07 am

From that list, I’d be delighted with Cooper or Moyes and dare I say it, I’d be okay with Lampard, too.

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Re: Next manager

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon May 27, 2024 10:07 am

I've sorted this betting list out 8-)

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Re: Next manager

Post by taio » Mon May 27, 2024 10:09 am

nil_desperandum wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 10:04 am
Don't think there's any chance that Brighton want him
With regards to the other 2 posts or picking up a job following a sacking, this means he is taking on a backs to the wall fight against relegation
(Quite possible that Leicester will be deducted points)
He is coming up 62. Ipswich is a long, long way from his home in Lytham
If I were him I'd much prefer to walk my dogs every morning on the green or beach at Lytham, then make the short journey to manage a team who must start amongst the favourites for promotion
He's not short of money so it rather depends on what his priorities are, but for me a 2 year deal at Burnley with a good incentive to gain promotion and then keep us up would be perfect for both parties.
Moyes would be a long shot for the reasons several people have given.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Spijed » Mon May 27, 2024 10:14 am

The problem the club have with someone like Frank Lampard is that many supporters don't want him so he'll be given less chance to succeed, especially if we don't start well than say Steve Cooper or David Moyes.

It was exactly the same with Brian Laws. He may or may not have been given a proper chance but it was a toxic feeling when he got appointed, and was never popular.
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Re: Next manager

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Mon May 27, 2024 10:20 am

Spijed wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 10:14 am
The problem the club have with someone like Frank Lampard is that many supporters don't want him so he'll be given less chance to succeed, especially if we don't start well than say Steve Cooper or David Moyes.

It was exactly the same with Brian Laws. He may or may not have been given a proper chance but it was a toxic feeling when he got appointed, and was never popular.
Exactly, I don’t want Lampard but I’d be prepared to give him a chance. Plenty of others won’t though. You only have to look at the Trafford debacle to see that.
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Re: Next manager

Post by nil_desperandum » Mon May 27, 2024 10:21 am

taio wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 10:09 am
Moyes would be a long shot for the reasons several people have given.
Well the bookies have him at 14/1, which is probably about right, but that shouldn't stop Pace going all out to get him - if he believes that he is the best man for the job.
"Long shot", yes I agree, but it shouldn't stop us going for him, since we don't know what Moyes priorities are at this stage of his life.

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Re: Next manager

Post by taio » Mon May 27, 2024 10:25 am

nil_desperandum wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 10:21 am
Well the bookies have him at 14/1, which is probably about right, but that shouldn't stop Pace going all out to get him - if he believes that he is the best man for the job.
"Long shot", yes I agree, but it shouldn't stop us going for him, since we don't know what Moyes priorities are at this stage of his life.
I agree, Pace should certainly be enquiring. But there are obvious barriers, such as:

- wages
- unwillingness to drop to Championship
- PL job opportunity may arise before the season starts or shortly after it starts
- wanting a break.
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Re: Next manager

Post by HahaYeah » Mon May 27, 2024 10:28 am

Would be disappointed with John Terry,Gary Rowett,Scott Parker, Ashley Cole.

Still and Knutsen, who knows.

Carlos Carvalho has had about 25 clubs in 25 years.

Rosenior, meh.

Robins, Lampard, might be good might not.

Potter, Moyes,Cooper, would be happy with any of them. :geek:

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Re: Next manager

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon May 27, 2024 10:33 am

taio wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 10:25 am
I agree, Pace should certainly be enquiring. But there are obvious barriers, such as:

- wages
- unwillingness to drop to Championship
- PL job opportunity may arise before the season starts or shortly after it starts
- wanting a break.
When kompany eventually goes the incoming compensation & freeing up his wage will go a long way into breaking down some of them barriers. The club should be an attractive proposition to a reasonable name.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ervi34 » Mon May 27, 2024 10:41 am

Nixon says Jackson is staying with Burnley.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Shaun1983 » Mon May 27, 2024 10:57 am

ervi34 wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 10:41 am
Nixon says Jackson is staying with Burnley.
Hope so, seems like a decent bloke and knows the club

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretAL » Mon May 27, 2024 10:58 am

If he is staying with the club, you would think that the new manager must have been found and agreed to Jackson being in his back room team?

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Re: Next manager

Post by ervi34 » Mon May 27, 2024 11:00 am

ClaretAL wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 10:58 am
If he is staying with the club, you would think that the new manager must have been found and agreed to Jackson being in his back room team?
Someone asked Nixon the same question, he says we don't have anyone close.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pearcey » Mon May 27, 2024 11:09 am

Fair play to Jackson. His family are probably settled here.

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Re: Next manager

Post by dermotdermot » Mon May 27, 2024 11:12 am

I’d make Mike Jackson the manager. He did well enough the last time. Far better option than all the other candidates. Very sensible on his part as well, if this is true. Kompany will be dumped In six months and all his followers will be unemployed.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ksrclaret » Mon May 27, 2024 11:13 am

I know it's easy to forget that people in football are just people after all, but it's entirely possible that Jackson has a happy family life over here and doesn't want to uproot himself or his family for what it likely to be a short spell in Germany.

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Re: Next manager

Post by claptrappers_union » Mon May 27, 2024 11:14 am

I don't think Jackson did that well; there was a new manager bounce, but that's it.
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Re: Next manager

Post by gandhisflipflop » Mon May 27, 2024 11:15 am

No way should Jackson be manager
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Re: Next manager

Post by Goliath » Mon May 27, 2024 11:16 am

dermotdermot wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 11:12 am
I’d make Mike Jackson the manager. He did well enough the last time. Far better option than all the other candidates. Very sensible on his part as well, if this is true. Kompany will be dumped In six months and all his followers will be unemployed.
I thought he was a dreadful manager if I'm honest. The Newcastle game had been coming, he completely overthought it and ended up worrying way to much about their strengths not ours. That led to players out of position and a feeble passive performance.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Darnhill Claret » Mon May 27, 2024 11:18 am

Kkeiran McKenna might end up staying with Ipswich.
I think he wants the Man U job, but Ten Hag has perhaps got a stay of execution with the FA Cup win but Ratcliffe apparently going to conduct a 'season review'. Seems he's trying to ease Ten Hag out any which way.
Brighton seem to have McKenna high on their list and again 'the press' advising him to hurry up and make a decision or Brighton will move on.
As people have already stated, perhaps Potter is happy to wait for 'the right job', if he is still on a gardening leave type of arrangement. Strikes me as the type of guy to prefer to be working sooner rather than later. I've got a feeling he'll be travelling the world, football wise, to further increase his coaching knowledge.

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Re: Next manager

Post by morninbob » Mon May 27, 2024 11:25 am

Didn't Jackson play under Moyes at Preston 😉

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Re: Next manager

Post by Darnhill Claret » Mon May 27, 2024 11:25 am

On that list, I don't see any surprising names, although I had forgotten about John Terry.
The odds tell me that they haven't yet taken any significant money for anyone and it very much looks like an 'opening show'.
I'm guessing that the first market moves will be guided by the first attempt to place £20 or more.
As dande and kenton have said it doesn't take much money to affect the market and most bookies won't take more than a fifty pound bet. Some much less.
Some exceptions for regular big hitters and regular losers.

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Re: Next manager

Post by brexit » Mon May 27, 2024 11:52 am

Last Time at this point fat sam was favourite and VK was not on the list.
https://www.oddschecker.com/insight/foo ... -favourite
Sarina Wiegman is an excellent shout :ugeek:

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Re: Next manager

Post by Murger » Mon May 27, 2024 11:54 am

Mind blowing the amount of people on social media who want MJ to get the job. Talk about setting the bar low.

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