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Re: Next manager

Post by It Is What It Is » Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:06 pm

I think AP had a lot lot more notice about VKs intentions on leaving than we are led to believe. The fall out of VK and Bells is an indicator which was weeks before his departure. AP has wasted no time at all getting all at BFC to do their due diligence and getting the managerial and backroom staff shortlists drawn up, that's why all of a sudden all these names are popping up now.
I would like to think AP now has who he wants and it's just a matter of contract and personal terms.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:07 pm

ervi34 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:29 pm
Has anyone actually checked how reliable the original source was? People here are sceptical when Nixon and Jones put something out but chose to believe some random article from Swedish press.
I would say a report from a Swedish paper about a manager managing in Sweden would be more reliable then Nixon or jones talking about him

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Re: Next manager

Post by quoonbeatz » Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:07 pm

Hendrik Rydstrom's nickname is Jeff.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:09 pm

It’s certainly plausible that Jensen could of been on a list of names to become kompanys new assistant, as we knew Bellamy was due to leave

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Re: Next manager

Post by Benson » Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:11 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:07 pm
Hendrik Rydstrom's nickname is Jeff.
The Doors released a song about him.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ArmchairDetective » Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:15 pm

Benson wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:11 pm
The Doors released a song about him.
A great record.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Steddyman » Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:22 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:16 pm
Another possible link to Jensen is Hendrik Rydstrom who was at Kalmar with him, and currently manages Malmo. But then again surely we can’t be taking two managers from the same league :D

Rydstrom was in the betting for the Brighton job recently and is now into 3rd favourite for us. Brighton fan article here discussing his style of play:

https://www.wearebrighton.com/newsopini ... on-street/
Another interview.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... tive-coach

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Re: Next manager

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:41 pm

Why would we be appointing an assistant manager when we have no manager? I don't get this. Managers bring their own assistants and backroom staff generally speaking.
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Re: Next manager

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:42 pm

Really excited by this one. Rydstrom

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Re: Next manager

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:44 pm

Benson wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:11 pm
The Doors released a song about him.
Expecting that but took longer than I expected.

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Re: Next manager

Post by warksclaret » Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:56 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:41 pm
Why would we be appointing an assistant manager when we have no manager? I don't get this. Managers bring their own assistants and backroom staff generally speaking.
Totally agree-makes no sense

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:58 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:56 pm
Totally agree-makes no sense
It’s pretty obvious an appointment is close and the assistant news has been leaked first

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Re: Next manager

Post by northeastclaret » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:00 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:41 pm
Why would we be appointing an assistant manager when we have no manager? I don't get this. Managers bring their own assistants and backroom staff generally speaking.
Perhaps it’s like when there was a leak from Bellamys side that he was joining us several weeks before Kompany was announced?
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Re: Next manager

Post by RVclaret » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:04 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:41 pm
Why would we be appointing an assistant manager when we have no manager? I don't get this. Managers bring their own assistants and backroom staff generally speaking.
Surely it suggests a new manager is close to being done and wants/is bringing Jensen as assistant.

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:09 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:22 pm
Another interview.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... tive-coach
Sounds like an interesting, intelligent guy. Lot going on there. Would take some patience from fans, that would be fun to see!

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Re: Next manager

Post by quoonbeatz » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:09 pm

northeastclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:00 pm
Perhaps it’s like when there was a leak from Bellamys side that he was joining us several weeks before Kompany was announced?
Jensen seen teeing off at Clitheroe half an hour ago, make of that what you will.

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:10 pm

CT has gone very quiet, I wonder if he's heard something?

If the assistant news has leaked out, I would imagine there are people that know who the manager will be...
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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:15 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:00 pm
A mate of a mate's brother's uncle's cousin has it from a really good source that Alan Pace was seen sitting on Pendle Hill with a banjo and a cowboy hat singing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVXVO_vF2Io
:lol:

I’m surprised there hasn’t been some video’s of Alan with that as the background song. Pretty sure some of the more creative technical folks could make something funny out of that.

Have to say I was expecting more meme’s of Alan & that Phil Mitchell drinking whiskey/bene or that “feel like **** just want him back” guy :D
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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:16 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:10 pm
CT has gone very quiet, I wonder if he's heard something?

If the assistant news has leaked out, I would imagine there are people that know who the manager will be...
I asked the other day, no reply. Which means “YES” :D

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:19 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:10 pm
CT has gone very quiet, I wonder if he's heard something?

If the assistant news has leaked out, I would imagine there are people that know who the manager will be...
I’ve gone quiet for a reason and not relating to the new manager or the board. Suffice to say that I’m dealing with a personal health issue just now.

I’m on and off the message board so will keep up with what’s going on as best I can.

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Re: Next manager

Post by HahaYeah » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:19 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:10 pm
CT has gone very quiet, I wonder if he's heard something?

If the assistant news has leaked out, I would imagine there are people that know who the manager will be...
We might now fairly expect it to be one of Rydstrom or Henriksen.

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Re: Next manager

Post by HahaYeah » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:21 pm

Youl Mawene has left his role at Fleetwood Town to become Burnley’s new performance coach, according to Training Ground Guru.

The Frenchman, who played for Preston North End during his playing career, returned to Fleetwood in September 2021, having previously worked for the club for eight years as a player and fitness coach. In between he was a strength and conditioning coach at Salford City.

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... es-4668487

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:25 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:16 pm
I asked the other day, no reply. Which means “YES” :D
HahaYeah wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:19 pm
We might now fairly expect it to be one of Rydstrom or Henriksen.
See my post above

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Re: Next manager

Post by warksclaret » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:25 pm

Strange we are making appointments without a full time new manager in place yet

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Re: Next manager

Post by ArmchairDetective » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:27 pm

All the best to you CT

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:28 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:19 pm
I’ve gone quiet for a reason and not relating to the new manager or the board. Suffice to say that I’m dealing with a personal health issue just now.

I’m on and off the message board so will keep up with what’s going on as best I can.
Sorry to hear that Tony, hopefully you'll be fighting for the new season, sounds like it will be another interesting ride.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:28 pm

HahaYeah wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:21 pm
Youl Mawene has left his role at Fleetwood Town to become Burnley’s new performance coach, according to Training Ground Guru.

The Frenchman, who played for Preston North End during his playing career, returned to Fleetwood in September 2021, having previously worked for the club for eight years as a player and fitness coach. In between he was a strength and conditioning coach at Salford City.

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... es-4668487
Assume he’s replacing Bram Geers

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pearcey » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:28 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:19 pm
I’ve gone quiet for a reason and not relating to the new manager or the board. Suffice to say that I’m dealing with a personal health issue just now.

I’m on and off the message board so will keep up with what’s going on as best I can.
Hope you feel better soon.
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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:28 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:25 pm
Strange we are making appointments without a full time new manager in place yet
officially :lol:

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:29 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:28 pm
Sorry to hear that Tony, hopefully you'll be fighting for the new season, sounds like it will be another interesting ride.
Thanks

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Re: Next manager

Post by BigGaz » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:29 pm

Reading in between the lines mate, I think this suggests we have our man now and he's told us who he wants as parts of his team.

To me, this also suggests that our man is someone who is currently employed rather than a free agent.

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Re: Next manager

Post by HahaYeah » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:34 pm

BigGaz wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:29 pm
Reading in between the lines mate, I think this suggests we have our man now and he's told us who he wants as parts of his team.

To me, this also suggests that our man is someone who is currently employed rather than a free agent.
Hence no announcement.

You could be right there.
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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:39 pm

HahaYeah wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:58 pm
From link:

Rather than players remaining in fixed areas, spread out across the pitch to stretch and switch the play, this new-style pioneered by Diniz effectively involves as many teammates as possible flocking to where the ball is.

“The team go wherever the ball-carrier needs them, like a swam of bees protecting their queen,” is how The Independent describe it.

If it sounds like total chaos, that is because it is. But it is the sort of chaos opponents have no answer to. The other team cannot predict and therefore stop what a Rydstrom side is going to do because the Rydstrom side do not know themselves.
I suppose there’s a theory that in the Championship, and particularly if we kept our current more exciting players like Koleosho, Amdouni and Odobert, that could be a great watch.

But if I’m honest it also sounds very high risk. Kompany’s style, whilst boring to watch at times, was effectively defending with the ball. Which I have to say I prefer to certainly Dycheball albeit both are to an extent anti-football in different ways.

Anyway, my point is more that Anass and Benson in particular thrived in that more structured system. I’m just not sure whether releasing the shackles would make them better or removed the structure that made them a success.

BUT, I think the ‘swarm of bees’ formation would surely get exterminated pretty quickly in the premier league?? Sort of the exact opposite to Dyche and arguably more risky than Kompany’s possession-based system on transition?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Jel » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:40 pm

Just found this analysis of Malmos tactics. It's going to be very interesting next season if it's Rydstrom.
https://youtu.be/UqIzAmSadd0?si=Hzrniz0y18x7izEg

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:42 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:19 pm
I’ve gone quiet for a reason and not relating to the new manager or the board. Suffice to say that I’m dealing with a personal health issue just now.

I’m on and off the message board so will keep up with what’s going on as best I can.
Really sorry to hear that Tony and apologies if my post came across as crass under the circumstances. There are, of course, far more important things than our new manager.

Hope you’re okay and back to full health as soon as possible.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Blyclaret » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:43 pm

Tony hope your health issues resolve quickly and your fighting fit for the season ahead. We need everybody behind the team.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:44 pm

HahaYeah wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:21 pm
Youl Mawene has left his role at Fleetwood Town to become Burnley’s new performance coach, according to Training Ground Guru.

The Frenchman, who played for Preston North End during his playing career, returned to Fleetwood in September 2021, having previously worked for the club for eight years as a player and fitness coach. In between he was a strength and conditioning coach at Salford City.

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... es-4668487
I’ve read the piece from training ground guru now. New physio also appointed by Rhodes. A lot have left I believe since he came in.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Jel » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:44 pm

You having the traffic cone removed Tony? :D
Get well soon

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Re: Next manager

Post by Quicknick » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:29 pm
Thanks[/q

Get well soon, CT.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:48 pm

Jel wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:44 pm
You having the traffic cone removed Tony? :D
Get well soon
Something like that
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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:52 pm

Jel wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:40 pm
Just found this analysis of Malmos tactics. It's going to be very interesting next season if it's Rydstrom.
https://youtu.be/UqIzAmSadd0?si=Hzrniz0y18x7izEg
Great video, thanks. Wish we had one of these reviews for all the managerial candidates.

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Re: Next manager

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:55 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:44 pm
I’ve read the piece from training ground guru now. New physio also appointed by Rhodes. A lot have left I believe since he came in.
This is possibly the ‘individual’. Senior pros by all accounts not happy with him so be interesting to see if he stays
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Re: Next manager

Post by Raconteur » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:57 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:25 pm
Strange we are making appointments without a full time new manager in place yet
I read somewhere that we are moving away from the manager role and going to the Head coach set up.

The new head coach will have to work alongside the existing coaching team?

It's all for continuity as the club feels too much power is awarded to the manager.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:59 pm

Raconteur wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:57 pm
I read somewhere that we are moving away from the manager role and going to the Head coach set up.

The new head coach will have to work alongside the existing coaching team?

It's all for continuity as the club feels too much power is awarded to the manager.
And yet they gave Kompany more power than any manager has previously had.

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Re: Next manager

Post by helmclaret » Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:07 pm

HahaYeah wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:58 pm
From link:

Rather than players remaining in fixed areas, spread out across the pitch to stretch and switch the play, this new-style pioneered by Diniz effectively involves as many teammates as possible flocking to where the ball is.

“The team go wherever the ball-carrier needs them, like a swam of bees protecting their queen,” is how The Independent describe it.

If it sounds like total chaos, that is because it is. But it is the sort of chaos opponents have no answer to. The other team cannot predict and therefore stop what a Rydstrom side is going to do because the Rydstrom side do not know themselves.
Richard Diniz?
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Re: Next manager

Post by dsr » Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:11 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:39 pm
I suppose there’s a theory that in the Championship, and particularly if we kept our current more exciting players like Koleosho, Amdouni and Odobert, that could be a great watch.

But if I’m honest it also sounds very high risk. Kompany’s style, whilst boring to watch at times, was effectively defending with the ball. Which I have to say I prefer to certainly Dycheball albeit both are to an extent anti-football in different ways.

Anyway, my point is more that Anass and Benson in particular thrived in that more structured system. I’m just not sure whether releasing the shackles would make them better or removed the structure that made them a success.

BUT, I think the ‘swarm of bees’ formation would surely get exterminated pretty quickly in the premier league?? Sort of the exact opposite to Dyche and arguably more risky than Kompany’s possession-based system on transition?
Is Kompany's style of play really much more entertaining than Dyche's? If we compare Kompany's first season with Dyche's championship seasons, I enjoyed both of them very much. And conversely, Kompany's second season in comparison with either of Dyche's relegation seasons - they were both dire. Possession football, done badly, is no more entertaining than more direct football; and more direct football, done well, is no less entertaining than possession football.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:13 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:19 pm
I’ve gone quiet for a reason and not relating to the new manager or the board. Suffice to say that I’m dealing with a personal health issue just now.

I’m on and off the message board so will keep up with what’s going on as best I can.
Get well soon CT

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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:18 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:59 pm
And yet they gave Kompany more power than any manager has previously had.
lesson learned then, that's a good thing.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Guller Bull » Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:26 pm

Been off grid at Download festival this last six days. I can see that RVN is hot favourite now and that we seem close to appointing a Swedish manager as a No2?

I have had a flip back through but cant see much else other than pointless bickering/ Have I missed anything else of importance?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Raconteur » Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:59 pm
And yet they gave Kompany more power than any manager has previously had.
From what i read, that is the reason why they are going for a head coach. Too much power was given to Kompany.

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