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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:55 pm

TPClaret wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:42 pm
Jesus people got to take the rough with the smooth. We didn’t lose. Another clean sheet. Another point on the board.
Or alternatively: we didn't win. We didn't score. Two more points dropped.

I know it's not easy breaking sides down who park the bus buy at least show a bit of intent. That's three 0-0 at home now against **** poor teams and we haven't looked like winning one of them.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by expoultryboy » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:55 pm

It depends on the clubs finances karetekid , but it would be a little bit embarrassing.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:55 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:52 pm
That is a really **** result.

Can't fault Parker, all that possession, all those chances, it's the players to blame. I said a couple of months ago, I feared we'd be better away from home because there is less pressure and expectation on the players. The main difference between Leeds, Sheff Utd and us is confidence. You can't coach that.
The sad thing is we'd looked like we were turning the corner. The performances have improved, but the final third is as bad as ever.
Parker set the side up, he played Laurent bronwhill and cullen against derby, at home with a number 10 playing as a striker.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:55 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:53 pm
Just been watching the last few minutes of the Leeds game
Our team needs to look at a recording to see how they attack when most sides would be sitting on a 2-1 lead with 6 minutes to go
Was just going to post this myself.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by NottsClaret » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:55 pm

Not really progressing are we. As s***e as ever. Possibly the most bored I’ve ever been watching football.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:56 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:50 pm
It’s all about opinions and you’re entitled to have a wrong one
Your standards are extremely low if you think Pires was good tonight

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Vino blanco » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:56 pm

If this team went up it would be embarrassing every game. Only Esteve could handle playing in the PL....the rest aren’t even close.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:57 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:52 pm
That is a really **** result.

Can't fault Parker, all that possession, all those chances, it's the players to blame. I said a couple of months ago, I feared we'd be better away from home because there is less pressure and expectation on the players. The main difference between Leeds, Sheff Utd and us is confidence. You can't coach that.
The sad thing is we'd looked like we were turning the corner. The performances have improved, but the final third is as bad as ever.
Which chances?
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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by burnleymik » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:57 pm

We should have hammered that lot and at the end they didn't have many, but had the better chances. We are seriously lacking up top and it's a real problem, especially as we cannot breakdown these teams that park the bus.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Dyched » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:57 pm

karatekid wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:51 pm
Does anyone really want to go straight back to the PL with these current players?
Be nice to have a reset a la Dyche 1st Promotion, Relegation, 2nd Promotion.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by willsclarets » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:58 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:56 pm
Royal Dyche
Or CFS
Any time.
seriously lads? Jesus Christ.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by expoultryboy » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:58 pm

All we need now is Harry Hill .

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by willsclarets » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:58 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:57 pm
Which chances?
Luca 1v1 is the only clear cut one I can think of

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Blyclaret » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:58 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:56 pm
Royal Dyche
Or CFS
Any time.
You are a gobby prick crawl back under the rock

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Milltown1882 » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:59 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:53 pm
Let’s try buying a blood and guts no 9 and start launching a few diagonal crosses into the box ,because if media darlings Arsenal are the best thing since sliced bread scoring off corners why can’t we play a bit more direct as an option to break teams down.
I watched Anthony pass a corner to a Derby player on the ground tonight. There’s a long long way to compare that to how Arsenal do set pieces :lol:

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:59 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:55 pm
Or alternatively: we didn't win. We didn't score. Two more points dropped.

I know it's not easy breaking sides down who park the bus buy at least show a bit of intent. That's three 0-0 at home now against **** poor teams and we haven't looked like winning one of them.
Don’t forget the 0-0 at Oxford, the 1-0 with a penalty at home to plymouth and a late show against ******* Portsmouth.
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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by jedi_master » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:59 pm

A depressing performance. Sat there thinking we wouldn’t score in a month of Sunday’s from about the 30th minute onwards sadly. Bizarre after such a good game against Boro where we showed urgency and impetus - and I don’t put that down to Derby and the ‘low block’ (I.e, an excuse trotted out to undermine your opposition and make allowances for your own inadequacies), I put it down to a poor team selection and repetitious attacks that clearly weren’t working.

I’m never one to single individuals out, or I try not to, but I’m starting to feel like eleven games or whatever it has been now of Flemming is enough to start making assessments. Out of position or not, he looks slow, unfit and doesn’t offer anything of note. He is not the answer - we have to sign a forward player in January.
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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by kentonclaret » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:59 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:52 pm
That is a really **** result.

Can't fault Parker, all that possession, all those chances, it's the players to blame. I said a couple of months ago, I feared we'd be better away from home because there is less pressure and expectation on the players. The main difference between Leeds, Sheff Utd and us is confidence. You can't coach that.
The sad thing is we'd looked like we were turning the corner. The performances have improved, but the final third is as bad as ever.
How many of our forward players do you think would get into the Leeds side if you truly believe that the only difference is confidence?
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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by expoultryboy » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:59 pm

The Luca 1v1 was a terrible ball to him

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Den_Perry » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:00 pm

I think the OP got it right with the thread title. We were a proper team of bumbaclarts tonight (apart from the defence and keeper I would say). Either that or he accidentally cursed us with the misspelling?!?

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by karatekid » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:00 pm

We are miles away from a squad that could survive in the PL. Even with a couple of additions in January we would struggle badly. We need another season of rebuilding after the huge turnover of players.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by alf_resco » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:00 pm

To say we are powder-puff going forwards is an insult to powder-puffs.
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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by burnley007 » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:00 pm

I miss VK

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by burnleymik » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:01 pm

Den_Perry wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:00 pm
I think the OP got it right with the thread title. We were a proper team of bumbaclarts tonight (apart from the defence and keeper I would say). Either that or he accidentally cursed us with the misspelling?!?
:lol: :oops:

We were definitely missing something and it was more than just the "e"!

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by warksclaret » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:01 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:59 pm
How many of our forward players do you think would get into the Leeds side if you truly believe that the only difference is confidence?
Maybe Trafford and Esteve but no more

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by karatekid » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:02 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:00 pm
I miss VK
I watched a bit of BM tonight and it was just like watching Burnley in that championship winning season.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by nyclaret » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:02 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:59 pm
How many of our forward players do you think would get into the Leeds side if you truly believe that the only difference is confidence?
There's a reason why Anthony couldn't get a game at Leeds...

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by burnley007 » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:03 pm

willsclarets wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:58 pm
seriously lads? Jesus Christ.
I'm absolutely sick of the abuse I get on here.

If we were playing fabulous football and winning games easily, like 2 seasons ago, and I was saying negative comments, I can understand people questioning it. But people being offensive because I make comments about this style of football is just bizarre.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by burnley007 » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:04 pm

karatekid wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:02 pm
I watched a bit of BM tonight and it was just like watching Burnley in that championship winning season.
Sounds beautiful

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:05 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:03 pm
I'm absolutely sick of the abuse I get on here.

If we were playing fabulous football and winning games easily, like 2 seasons ago, and I was saying negative comments, I can understand people questioning it. But people being offensive because I make comments about this style of football is just bizarre.
If it makes things any better I thought it was absolute drivel tonight, clueless going forward , too slow and too cautious .

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by expoultryboy » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:05 pm

the thing that annoys me most about Anthony , is that he laughs when he messes up !!

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:05 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:02 pm
There's a reason why Anthony couldn't get a game at Leeds...
He’s allowed one off game, he’s been very good for the last 4 or 5 games, it’s players like Pires and Flemming who have been consistently poor that need calling out

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Robbo1882 » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:06 pm

I think Pace has got it wrong with Parker, his style of play and tactics do not work with this group of players, we need someone who is a little more willing to to take the handbrake off and punish weaker teams.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:07 pm

A positive note, Humphreys looks like he’s going to be a real player

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by nyclaret » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:07 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:05 pm
He’s allowed one off game, he’s been very good for the last 4 or 5 games, it’s players like Pires and Flemming who have been consistently poor that need calling out
I was replying to kentonclaret's post asking how many of our forwards would get into the Leeds side, and quite obviously Anthony would not
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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:07 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:02 pm
There's a reason why Anthony couldn't get a game at Leeds...
Connor Roberts was a regular on the bench for them as well and he's one of our best players.

I just don't think people realise how much quality we're lacking in this side compared to the last time out - Tella, Maatsen, Zaroury, Benson & Jay/Barnes (of two seasons ago) - all massive upgrades on what we have available right now.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by willsclarets » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:08 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:03 pm
I'm absolutely sick of the abuse I get on here.

If we were playing fabulous football and winning games easily, like 2 seasons ago, and I was saying negative comments, I can understand people questioning it. But people being offensive because I make comments about this style of football is just bizarre.
What's that got to do with he fact that you and another poster were talking about having a fight. Which I can scarcely believe I'm typing.

Your comments now, are a lot tamer than they were. But there was a month period where it genuinely felt like the messageboard was spammed you were posting so much stuff about Parker. So you can't be that suprised that they are people who are less tolerant of you now because of it. It hasn't just happened out of thin air, has it.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by BigJay » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:09 pm

I usually wait until the following day to post but I've come of the turf fuming tonight. Basically we've effectively played a 4-6-0 again, against a team set up 4-5-1. Playing 5 central midfielders (Cullen, Brownhill, Laurent on the left, then Sarmiento crammed into the middle, with Flemming, another midfielder/forward, as a lone striker). It's an absolute joke, it's tedious, dull and uninspiring. We're not a patch on the side we had 2 seasons ago and we'll barely make the playoffs. Players playing out of position, it's awful, no width, no urgency, and no idea with the ball. It's the same every week. I don't like singling out players but Anthony and Pires were miles off it tonight and way too predictable. And don't get me started on corners and set pieces.
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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Goody1975 » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:10 pm

Recent games have seen us take a few strides forward, this tonight was twenty steps back.

No urgency, no plan b and creating the square root of **** all
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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:10 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:59 pm
Don’t forget the 0-0 at Oxford, the 1-0 with a penalty at home to plymouth and a late show against ******* Portsmouth.
I had almost forgotten them until you posted that.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Paddy1882 » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:11 pm

I’m calling it now I think he goes after Blackburn away. 3 of the next 5 away none of them easy, I think we’ll be lucky to get 6 points (2 home games Watford and Stoke) from those 5 based on the quality of opposition and pace and co will pull the trigger.
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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Commy » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:13 pm

I don't mind Anthony and Pires having off nights as they have played well for the most part. It is the slow build up play that annoys me and the 3 defensive midfielders against weaker opposition. We should be hammering these teams but Parker seems to be too scared to give a goal away. It's the 'if you can't win at least get a point' mentality but the problem is that we can win but aren't allowed to throw the kitchen sink at them.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Boss Hogg » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:13 pm

One of the dullest matches I’ve seen. No excitement or goal threat at all.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:14 pm

Paddy1882 wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:11 pm
I’m calling it now I think he goes after Blackburn away. 3 of the next 5 away none of them easy, I think we’ll be lucky to get 6 points (2 home games Watford and Stoke) from those 5 based on the quality of opposition and pace and co will pull the trigger.
I'm calling it now he won't.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by RVclaret » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:14 pm

Paddy1882 wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:11 pm
I’m calling it now I think he goes after Blackburn away. 3 of the next 5 away none of them easy, I think we’ll be lucky to get 6 points (2 home games Watford and Stoke) from those 5 based on the quality of opposition and pace and co will pull the trigger.
I think we tend to look better against better opposition.

And he won’t anyway.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Commy » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:15 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:14 pm
I'm calling it now he won't.
Depends how many supporters turn up. It looks like more and more are stopping going. You can stream the Saturday games which means you can turn them off when you get bored.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Commy » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:16 pm

Alan must be bored stupid as well :lol:

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Blyclaret » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:16 pm

3rd in Championship best defence in league. Parker going nowhere.

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by Commy » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:17 pm

At this rate Rovers are going to hit the top two :o

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Re: Clarts vs Derby

Post by TsarBomba » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:19 pm

Parker isn’t going anywhere, like it or not.

Tonight was rank bad but whilst we’re still on course for the play-offs at least, a new manager would do more harm than good and potentially derail us.

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