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Re: Europa League seedings

Post by Leisure » Wed May 30, 2018 3:42 pm

KRBFC wrote:Why did Everton enter in the 3rd round of qualifying but we play in the 2nd round?
Don't know. They finished 7th as we did!

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Re: Europa League seedings

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 30, 2018 3:47 pm

KRBFC wrote:Edit: Turns out Everton entered at the 3rd round qualifying stage, why do we enter in the 2nd round?
New set of rules for the next three years, starting next season.

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Re: Europa League seedings

Post by bfcmik » Wed May 30, 2018 4:12 pm

Just because a team enters at a later stage does not mean that their co-efficient will be high enough to rank them as one of the top 37 seeding places. There are several teams who enter at the 2nd round stage this year who will not be one of the seeded teams. Where you enter is based on your country's long-term achievement in all European competitions. The more success in the past the better your competition entries get.

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Re: Europa League seedings

Post by Leisure » Wed May 30, 2018 4:39 pm

bfcmik wrote:Just because a team enters at a later stage does not mean that their co-efficient will be high enough to rank them as one of the top 37 seeding places. There are several teams who enter at the 2nd round stage this year who will not be one of the seeded teams. Where you enter is based on your country's long-term achievement in all European competitions. The more success in the past the better your competition entries get.
Ok but is all this in the Rules and Regulations and, if so, where?

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by Geoff » Wed May 30, 2018 5:30 pm

Will be an interesting draw to say the least

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by Leisure » Wed May 30, 2018 5:57 pm

Mods - There are 2 threads entitled Europa League Seedings, please could these be combined into 1 thread?

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by KateR » Wed May 30, 2018 6:11 pm

its like learning hieroglyphics with dyslexia, so confused but my take on this so far is no one seems to know who we will be playing or even which area, so am waiting for more info on the seeds pots etc then maybe I can understand where approximately we will be play from a short list. Once I see that with some certainty I will start discussing holiday plans and looking at prices, how long to go for. It's exciting thinking about it though :)

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Re: Europa League seedings

Post by Rowls » Wed May 30, 2018 6:12 pm

Leisure wrote:Hi Rowls - How's Montpellier? We had a great time there and it was really nice to meet up with you! As you say trying to fathom out just how the draw, seedings etc works is near impossible. The competition's Rules and Regulations runs to over 100 pages! Keep flying the flag over there! UTC
Great to meet you too!

Montpellier is fantastic. Went to the town of Roquefort today where the cheese is made in the local caves. Amazing cave system used to create the perfect environment for maturing blue cheeses - now to consume a few choice samples on the terrace with a glass of wine. :)

Life isn't too bad! ;)

Good luck with trying to follow the Europa ligue nonsense. I've given up attempting to understand the rules. I figure if I know who we're drawn against and how to get there then that's good enough for me.

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Re: Europa League seedings

Post by Dazzler » Wed May 30, 2018 6:16 pm

KRBFC wrote:Why did Everton enter in the 3rd round of qualifying but we play in the 2nd round? It seems strange that there doesn't appear to be any English/Spanish/German/Italian clubs that entered qualifying at the 2nd round last year.
It think it is due to UEFA giving entry to more 'tinpot' clubs from 'tinpot football nations' such as Gibralter.

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Re: Europa League seedings

Post by piston broke » Wed May 30, 2018 6:25 pm

This EUFA, fellas. They’ll get the draw they want and the results they want.
Just go with it. On the 19th we will find ourselves drawn against one team or the winners of two teams. We will know whether we are home or away first leg. All is good.
WE ARE IN EUROPE.

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Re: Europa League seedings

Post by Elder statesman » Wed May 30, 2018 6:50 pm

So will we not play before the 27th of July? Trying to sort my hols out.

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Re: Europa League seedings

Post by Leisure » Wed May 30, 2018 6:58 pm

Elder statesman wrote:So will we not play before the 27th of July? Trying to sort my hols out.
1st game on 26th July and then every Thursday after that until we get knocked out.

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Re: Europa League seedings

Post by Dazzler » Wed May 30, 2018 7:09 pm

Leisure wrote:1st game on 26th July and then every Thursday after that until we get knocked out.
So just 2 thursdays then ;)
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Re: Europa League seedings

Post by Elder statesman » Wed May 30, 2018 7:31 pm

Thanks Pete.

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Re: Europa League seedings

Post by KRBFC » Wed May 30, 2018 8:10 pm

bfcmik wrote:Just because a team enters at a later stage does not mean that their co-efficient will be high enough to rank them as one of the top 37 seeding places. There are several teams who enter at the 2nd round stage this year who will not be one of the seeded teams. Where you enter is based on your country's long-term achievement in all European competitions. The more success in the past the better your competition entries get.
Yeah but that doesn't answer the question I asked, CT cleared it up, a change in the rules now means English/Italian/Spanish/German clubs enter in the 2nd round not in the 3rd like last season.

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Re: Europa League seedings

Post by Blackrod » Wed May 30, 2018 8:33 pm

Not sure if it's me but talking about 'co-efficients' saps the fun out of the draw. Imagine having a World Cup wall chart showing all the qualifiers with algebraic formula. I'm sure it would keep people riveted.

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Re: Europa League seedings

Post by bfcmik » Wed May 30, 2018 9:10 pm

KRBFC wrote:Yeah but that doesn't answer the question I asked, CT cleared it up, a change in the rules now means English/Italian/Spanish/German clubs enter in the 2nd round not in the 3rd like last season.
My answer was not in response to your question

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by Geoff » Thu May 31, 2018 7:10 am

All seedings can be found here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%8 ... ying_round" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by Blackrod » Thu May 31, 2018 8:07 am

Why should a team that is knocked out in prelim round of CL automatically enter the Europa ?
Why should a team near the Chinese border enter the Europa ? I used to wonder what they did all day at organisations such as FIFA and UEFA. I'm beginning to understand.
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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 31, 2018 9:54 am

I've just been made aware that there were two threads running on the board with the same title. This one, started by Milltown1882 on 15th May and one started a couple of days ago by myself. I've now merged mine into the original. It should avoid any confusion and help keep all the info in one place.

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by NRC » Thu May 31, 2018 11:05 am

Was BFC once called Milltown? :?

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by Leisure » Thu May 31, 2018 2:19 pm

Lancashire Telegraph now reporting that the 2nd Round draw won't take place until 20th June.

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by Falcon » Thu May 31, 2018 4:28 pm

Leisure wrote:Lancashire Telegraph now reporting that the 2nd Round draw won't take place until 20th June.

They're not wrong. We're in the League Path.

From UEFA website:
June
12 June: Preliminary round draw (League path), Nyon
19 June: Second qualifying round draw (Champions path), Nyon
20 June: First & second qualifying round draws (League path), Nyon

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by Dazzler » Thu May 31, 2018 4:35 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I've just been made aware that there were two threads running on the board with the same title. This one, started by Milltown1882 on 15th May and one started a couple of days ago by myself. I've now merged mine into the original. It should avoid any confusion and help keep all the info in one place.
I was aware that there were two threads on this subject when someone started the 2nd one on tuesday 29th may. :) ;)

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by Leisure » Thu May 31, 2018 4:39 pm

Falcon wrote:They're not wrong. We're in the League Path.

From UEFA website:
Yes but why the hell does it take 2 days to draw a few numbers/names out?????

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by TVC15 » Thu May 31, 2018 4:43 pm

Leisure wrote:Yes but why the hell does it take 2 days to draw a few numbers/names out?????
They UEFA officials need to stop over in the 5 star hotel. It`s not easy co-ordinating back handers, brown paper bags and Russian hookers. These things take time and planning.
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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by Falcon » Thu May 31, 2018 4:56 pm

TVC15 wrote:They UEFA officials need to stop over in the 5 star hotel. It`s not easy co-ordinating back handers, brown paper bags and Russian hookers. These things take time and planning.

There speaks a man of experience

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 31, 2018 5:24 pm

Falcon wrote:They're not wrong. We're in the League Path.

From UEFA website:
The info you've posted from the UEFA website can be found on here

http://www.uptheclarets.com/friendlies-and-key-dates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 31, 2018 5:25 pm

Leisure wrote:Lancashire Telegraph now reporting that the 2nd Round draw won't take place until 20th June.
Again, just check the link, was on here before the LT published it

http://www.uptheclarets.com/friendlies-and-key-dates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by Dazzler » Thu May 31, 2018 5:32 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Again, just check the link, was on here before the LT published it

http://www.uptheclarets.com/friendlies-and-key-dates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It was on wiki long before it was on here ;)

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 31, 2018 8:09 pm

Dazzler wrote:It was on wiki long before it was on here ;)
Clever **** but it you bother to look, the change of date for the 2nd qualifying round draw is still not on wiki.

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by Dazzler » Thu May 31, 2018 9:53 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Clever **** but it you bother to look, the change of date for the 2nd qualifying round draw is still not on wiki.
Did your pal Platini phone you up to tell you first.
? ;)
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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 31, 2018 11:18 pm

Dazzler wrote:Did your pal Platini phone you up to tell you first.
? ;)
No, I try to keep a website running with what I think is useful information for our fans. I looked it up, found the change of date a couple of days ago and changed it. I think many people find it useful so I'll continue trying to do that.

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by Dazzler » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:06 am

ClaretTony wrote: No, I try to keep a website running with what I think is useful information for our fans. I looked it up, found the change of date a couple of days ago and changed it. I think many people find it useful so I'll continue trying to do that.

Good on yers ;)

In all seriousness though,don't you think I'm aware of all you have done over the years.

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by South West Claret. » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:24 pm

Burnley currently 100/1 to win it https://www.oddschecker.com/football/eu ... gue/winner" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:38 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Burnley currently 100/1 to win it https://www.oddschecker.com/football/eu ... gue/winner" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Not only that but I noticed last night that of 26 teams in the final play off round before the group stages, only about half a dozen of the possible candidates are better favoured with the bookies than Burnley. We have a decent chance if we get through the first set of matches.

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Re: Europa League Seedings

Post by Tribesmen » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:51 pm

NRC wrote:Was BFC once called Milltown? :?
Maybe but Shamrock Rovers used to play there for many years . 8-) Hows things Ralph ;)

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Re: Europa League seedings

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:02 am

Leisure wrote:No we won't, as we won't know our opponents until the completion of the 1st Round on 19th July. And that will then only give us 1 week to sort out tickets, travel, accommodation etc if we are away in the 1st leg!!!
Even if we get Almaty away Accy Clarets can drive it in a week!
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